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Apr 7 2018 11:28am
Quote (Subzer0isGG @ Apr 7 2018 01:17pm)
The Lindsay and hart are the same trophy go to same player.


Wat no they are not lel
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Apr 7 2018 11:34am
Quote (Twax @ Apr 7 2018 11:28am)
Wat no they are not lel



Difference is who votes for each one. Ones PA and other is hockey writers.

“First awarded in 1971, it is a companion to the Hart Memorial Trophy”

Companion - one of a pair of things intended to complement or match each other
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Apr 7 2018 11:38am
Quote (Subzer0isGG @ Apr 7 2018 01:34pm)
Difference is who votes for each one. Ones PA and other is hockey writers.

“First awarded in 1971, it is a companion to the Hart Memorial Trophy”

Companion - one of a pair of things intended to complement or match each other


One is awarded to the best player accorded to the other players and the other one to the most valuable to his team.

McDavid is arguably the best player in the game ( I personally have Crosby over him still ) but you can't say he was the most valuable to his team when they finished bottom 10..
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Apr 7 2018 11:49am
Quote (Pens @ Apr 7 2018 12:14pm)
I never said mcdavid is useless. He is a world class player.

But he didnt help his team succeed, at least not enough for a winning season/post season.

Hall did that.


This makes no sense to me, haha. If McDavid is a better player than Hall, he helped Edmonton more than Hall did New Jersey, regardless of where they are in the standings.

This post was edited by slickjay on Apr 7 2018 11:52am
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One is awarded to the best player accorded to the other players and the other one to the most valuable to his team.

McDavid is arguably the best player in the game ( I personally have Crosby over him still ) but you can't say he was the most valuable to his team when they finished bottom 10..



Most valuable to a team =/= end of season standings.
Especially considering for each team, mcdavid has done more than others.

The wording is ambiguous.
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Apr 7 2018 12:29pm
being the mvp on a team doesnt mean shit if your team finishes bottom of the pack and has crappy players its a lot easier to be an mvp
hall is carrying his team to the playoffs wih out hall they are not even close that makes him mvp


if mcdavid could carry the oilers to the playoffs he prob wins in but he cant because your gm is trash and constantly puts together the worst team possible
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Apr 7 2018 12:39pm
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being the mvp on a team doesnt mean shit if your team finishes bottom of the pack and has crappy players its a lot easier to be an mvp
hall is carrying his team to the playoffs wih out hall they are not even close that makes him mvp


if mcdavid could carry the oilers to the playoffs he prob wins in but he cant because your gm is trash and constantly puts together the worst team possible


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Hall has carried his team
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Apr 7 2018 12:40pm
So if McDavid takes Hall's spot on the Devils roster, they're worse off? I have a hard time believing that.
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Apr 7 2018 12:42pm
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So if McDavid takes Hall's spot on the Devils roster, they're worse off? I have a hard time believing that.


Well, he didn't get his team to playoffs did he?
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Apr 7 2018 12:45pm
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So if McDavid takes Hall's spot on the Devils roster, they're worse off? I have a hard time believing that.


lets just leave it at if the oilers had hall+mcdavid they might make the playoffs

but tbh even with 105 or w/e mcdavid has hes got way better supporting players with guys like draisaitl halls next best point producer is like hischier at 55? in his rookie season
if oilers cant make playoffs with mcdavid getting 105 pts your gm should be fired because thats fucked up be worried about that not mcdavid not winning the hart

This post was edited by dragoneth on Apr 7 2018 12:48pm
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