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Mar 5 2020 01:31pm
Quote (stuartg85 @ Mar 5 2020 11:16am)
ok, glad we're on the same page here

ACH > NHL


and thats where you are wrong.

there are SO many more factors to consider...

strength of defense playing in front of the goalie - Carolina is much better than the defense of the team he played on in the ACH

number of shots faced + quality of shots faced - in his one half game, he only faced 10 NHL shots. i cannot find information that deep on the ACH, but we'll say 25 on average over 8 games is 200 shots.

strength of opposing teams forwards - Toronto is obviously better

So, over 8 games he faced 190 more shots than he did at the NHL level, at the NHL level through his one half game with an elite defense his save percentage is only 3% better than it was facing somewhere around 200 much lesser quality shots in another league.
If Ayers played 7.5 more games, his save percentage would be absolutely abysmal at the NHL level facing much higher quality opposition.

You cannot compare such a small sample size of one half game with 8 separate games using only a percentage. One game is much different than 8 total games, and he didnt even play one full game, he couldve let in 2 or 3 more goals if he played the entire game and then we wouldnt even be here right now.

You do not understand the dynamics of the sport.
Imagine looking at one stat that is literally so rare that its only happened once in the 100 year history of the league and thinking you know how shit works.
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Mar 5 2020 01:53pm
Quote (Queefy @ Mar 5 2020 02:31pm)
and thats where you are wrong.

there are SO many more factors to consider...

strength of defense playing in front of the goalie - Carolina is much better than the defense of the team he played on in the ACH

number of shots faced + quality of shots faced - in his one half game, he only faced 10 NHL shots. i cannot find information that deep on the ACH, but we'll say 25 on average over 8 games is 200 shots.

strength of opposing teams forwards - Toronto is obviously better

So, over 8 games he faced 190 more shots than he did at the NHL level, at the NHL level through his one half game with an elite defense his save percentage is only 3% better than it was facing somewhere around 200 much lesser quality shots in another league.
If Ayers played 7.5 more games, his save percentage would be absolutely abysmal at the NHL level facing much higher quality opposition.

You cannot compare such a small sample size of one half game with 8 separate games using only a percentage. One game is much different than 8 total games, and he didnt even play one full game, he couldve let in 2 or 3 more goals if he played the entire game and then we wouldnt even be here right now.

You do not understand the dynamics of the sport.
Imagine looking at one stat that is literally so rare that its only happened once in the 100 year history of the league and thinking you know how shit works.



team 1 offense better
team 2 defense better
= null

only constant is the goalie

he was better vs NHL

therefore NHL worse than ACH

anything i'm missing?
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Mar 5 2020 01:57pm
Quote (stuartg85 @ Mar 5 2020 11:53am)
team 1 offense better
team 2 defense better
= null

only constant is the goalie

he was better vs NHL

therefore NHL worse than ACH

anything i'm missing?


Not null, Toronto's offense is just good this year, it should be alot better but this year shit hasnt worked out well.
Carolina's defense is extremely good and they were on another one that night, combined with toronto offense playing like absolute shit.

good overall currently playing like shit < great playing great = not null

you cannot take a whole league and weigh it against one half game on one night. Especially when one team is playing uncharacteristically like ass

This post was edited by Queefy on Mar 5 2020 01:59pm
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Mar 5 2020 02:01pm
Quote (Queefy @ Mar 5 2020 02:57pm)
Not null, Toronto's offense is just good this year, it should be alot better but this year shit hasnt worked out well.
Carolina's defense is extremely good and they were on another one that night, combined with toronto offense playing like absolute shit.

good overall currently playing like shit < great playing great = not null


I like how in his logic, the Shitty Leafs = Entire NHL

Can't make this shit up. :rofl:
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Mar 5 2020 02:02pm
Quote (ManaJunkie @ Mar 5 2020 12:01pm)
I like how in his logic, the Shitty Leafs = Entire NHL

Can't make this shit up. :rofl:


yeah i guess barely hanging on to a playoff spot (wouldnt even have one if they were in the metro) = best team in the league, theres no way they could ever lose.

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bout to get closed id imagine lol

This post was edited by Queefy on Mar 5 2020 02:03pm
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Mar 5 2020 02:08pm
Don’t know why you guys keep feeding this troll. It’s been a few days now.
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Mar 5 2020 02:10pm
Quote (Subzer0isGG @ Mar 5 2020 03:08pm)
Don’t know why you guys keep feeding this troll. It’s been a few days now.


I just put my two cents in here and there. Idgaf either way. He is entitled to his wrong opinion.
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Mar 5 2020 02:11pm
Quote (Subzer0isGG @ Mar 5 2020 12:08pm)
Don’t know why you guys keep feeding this troll. It’s been a few days now.


eh, its something to do when theres nothing else to do. Attempt to save somebody from idiocracy, but that clearly isnt going to happen.
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Mar 5 2020 02:22pm
Quote (Queefy @ Mar 5 2020 02:57pm)
Not null, Toronto's offense is just good this year, it should be alot better but this year shit hasnt worked out well.
Carolina's defense is extremely good and they were on another one that night, combined with toronto offense playing like absolute shit.

good overall currently playing like shit < great playing great = not null

you cannot take a whole league and weigh it against one half game on one night. Especially when one team is playing uncharacteristically like ass


Quote (ManaJunkie @ Mar 5 2020 03:01pm)
I like how in his logic, the Shitty Leafs = Entire NHL

Can't make this shit up. :rofl:


https://www.espn.com/nhl/standings/_/group/league

Maple Leaves - 13th

Hurricanes - 15th

do i need to walk through the numbers portion again?

This post was edited by stuartg85 on Mar 5 2020 02:22pm
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Mar 5 2020 02:29pm
Quote (stuartg85 @ Mar 5 2020 03:22pm)
https://www.espn.com/nhl/standings/_/group/league

Maple Leaves - 13th

Hurricanes - 15th

do i need to walk through the numbers portion again?


No it's ok. You have proven your lack of knowledge enough.
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