Herro is a fine young player, and so is Duncan (although he's like 27 years old) who would be a nice spot up floor spacer.

But neither play defense, let alone at a DPOY caliber level. Which the Nets desperately need.

Pretty sure as long as they received commitment that he'd play, they'd take Simmons 100/100 times over a Herro & Duncan package lol.

This post was edited by Sixers on Jan 27 2022 12:18am

What makes you so confident that Simmons is a willing participant to NY? Wasn't part of his mental struggle due to the heightened media presence and expectations that come along with playing in Philly?

Maybe it's more attractive for Simmons going to Brooklyn because of the coaching structure being the most player friendly in the league. I even remember some articles written that the organization set up houses for the side pieces of the players.

I still think that NY is not the ideal place for Simmons. Sacramento would be perfect because he'd have his own team and there wouldn't be a lot of expectations or coverage.

I mean idk if he'd work well next to KD and Kyrie, they're both emotional bitches who get offended easily. That would be an awkward pairing chemistry wise.

On the court that would be a beautiful fit, and they could even run "small" at times with Simmons at the 5, KD at the 4.


I really don't care where Simmons goes to be honest, as long as the 76ers get a good return. Embiid is dominating as much as anyone in the league right now and they gotta get him another superstar or high level all-star to play next to by next season. Harden is an ideal fit as they need a shot creating/facilitating guard, so we'll keep our fingers crossed for that.

You want me to list the entire 2nd tier list of nba talent?
cj, siakam, simmons, porzingis, lowry, bam, klay, westbrick(before LAL stint), ingram, brown, middleton, etc.
All of these players have shown at times they can lead a team. But they're also inconsistent enough or missing something to join the likes of curry/lbj/giannas/ad/lillard/kat/embiid/booker/doncic etc.
Some of the players in the 2nd tier are more valuable than others. But they're not in the 3rd tier nor are they close to the 1st tier.(ex Simmons > Lowry or porzingis.)

For a 2nd tier list to equal a first tier player. First the current team has to be motivated to not build around one of these players.
Then you have to make it worth while by including at least one young prospect who has potential as well as multiple FRP.
Top tier nba talent doesn't get moved very often otherwise.
Melo, Har_en, AD, Love, Leonard, PG13, etc.
Some of these players went for more than their counterparts or they went for a bit less due to their contract situation.

Philly at the moment wants to sell Simmons for his "draft potential" despite him being a known commodity in the league.(remember he was supposed to be the next lbj)
Philly also wants to buy low on 1st tier talent.
They want to win on both ends of the trade and it's just not going to happen.
Pay a kings ransom for Simmons, but we're only giving you Simmons and maybe a FRP protected for your top tier superstar.
Just not realistic. Teams would rather let players walk or trade them somewhere they'd rather not go.

Philly also can't come back with "oh don't want to burn bridges with agents as it will affect their FA chances in later seasons".
Philly has already done that with Simmons.

This post was edited by UnEvilManiac on Jan 27 2022 07:16am

You are over complicating it.

I am just asking waht you think Simmons is worth like give me a trade example.

Thats all Im asking bro

im on your side here

Top 20 player
v
Simmons + 2 unprotected FRP + Maxey + thybull + rights to swap FRP.

Price fluxates depending on whom they go after. Lillard/Beal/Har_en? Best believe they're paying that and then some. Maybe not the rights to swap for Har_en being that it's a contract year. But who knows with Har_en that head case might straight retire.

what evidence is there of this precedence though? Carmelo is the only one I can think of who went for a ransom but the Knicks FO was dumb af

Simmons, Maxey, Thybulle, 2x unprotected firsts, AND rights to swap a FRP???? LOOOOL

Straight up trolling in here. Delusional.

This post was edited by Sixers on Jan 27 2022 08:29am

PG13 trade to Clippers. Giant haul for a player locked up.
PG13 to Pacers Dipo + Sabonis. Contract year for PG13.
Leonard to Raptors Derozan+FRP + young prospect big (Trade demand) Two current starters on the spurs are young prospects from this trade.
Love traded to cavs Wiggins(Projected to be next LBJ) + Bennet(#1 overall pick that year) + Thad Young. young talented prospect.
Har_en trade to Huston. talented scorer Kevin Martin. FRP Jermey Lamb + 2 unprotected FRP(adams/mcgary) + SRP(no name)

It's there seems like you need to research more.
These are just trades off the top of my head.... If I used google at all....

You're not going to sell simmons high and then buy a top 20 player low like you want to.
danny ainge couldn't do it without his bff gifting him players. morey isn't going to do it.
It would've happened already if it was going to happen.

First it was. Portland/Wizards have to take the scraps philly is offering.
Then it was. Oh movement will happen once signed players from the past offseason can be traded.
Now it's oh we're waiting until after the season for free agency.

This post was edited by UnEvilManiac on Jan 27 2022 08:37am