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#61
May 17 2022 12:34am
Quote (kevindyd77 @ May 17 2022 04:30pm)
lets calm down a little bit

worry about rankings after the playoffs, with no bias

you know how during the playoffs people called Rondo top 3 PGs then when next season came he wasnt talked out much. obviously Tatum is a different beast but lets calm down a bit mate

i honestly dont know where to rank Tatum, it's hard to be objective


I tried my best to keep bias out of my rankings, but naturally their might still be a bit there. I think my list is pretty reasonable.

Quote (ZxFamily-GuyxZ @ May 17 2022 04:28pm)
People really need to relax with this Lebron stuff
Giannis already coming up short showed us just truly how great Lebron was and still is.....

Top 7
Giannis
KD
Lebron
Kawhi
Embiid
Jokic
Curry

These guys are on a different level imo

After that, it's really though but I'm going to take the 3 rising stars over AD, Lillard and Harden

# 8-10
Tatum
Doncic (Doncic>>>>>>> if defense is irrelevant)
Ja

My top 10


Defense is never irrelevant.

And that’s why I believe there’s a world where Tatum > Curry

This post was edited by Nwotmik on May 17 2022 12:35am
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#62
May 17 2022 12:43am
Quote (Nwotmik @ May 17 2022 02:10am)
Definitely ahead of Tatum:
Jokic
Giannis
Embiid
Durant (gap is closing for KD)

Debatably ahead Tatum:
Luka
Curry
Morant

Tatum gone ahead of:
LeBron
Booker
Butler
Harden
Irving
Davis
George

Hard to gauge due to injury:
Kawhi


So anywhere between 5-8 imo but climbing fast

If he carries us to a win against the heat and performs well in the finals I think he could well establish himself in the top 5. But for certain top 8.


Luka and Curry debatable?

LOL

LeBron, Irving, and healthy AD are better as well.

Morant is close and has a higher ceiling.

Harden gets a bad wrap and had a down year but if he gets back to form he's a lot better as well.
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May 17 2022 12:44am
Quote (fuzzy159 @ May 17 2022 04:43pm)
Luka and Curry debatable?

LOL

LeBron, Irving, and healthy AD are better as well.

Morant is close and has a higher ceiling.

Harden gets a bad wrap and had a down year but if he gets back to form he's a lot better as well.


Lol I’m done here. Arguing with a blind hater.
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#64
May 17 2022 12:46am
Quote (Nwotmik @ May 17 2022 02:44am)
Lol I’m done here. Arguing with a blind hater.


Blind hater?

Use BPM if you don't like VORP.


He is in the teens.

BPM -- Box Plus/Minus
A box score estimate of the points per 100 possessions a player contributed above a league-average player, translated to an average team.
VORP -- Value over Replacement Player
A box score estimate of the points per 100 TEAM possessions that a player contributed above a replacement-level (-2.0) player, translated to an average team and prorated to an 82-game season.


Sorry that you're just a blind Homer :rolleyes:


The fact you think it's debatable that he's better than Curry or Luka might be one of the funniest things I've read here ever.

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May 17 2022 12:48am
Quote (fuzzy159 @ May 17 2022 04:46pm)
Blind hater?

Use BPM if you don't like VORP.


He is in the teens.

BPM -- Box Plus/Minus
A box score estimate of the points per 100 possessions a player contributed above a league-average player, translated to an average team.
VORP -- Value over Replacement Player
A box score estimate of the points per 100 TEAM possessions that a player contributed above a replacement-level (-2.0) player, translated to an average team and prorated to an 82-game season.


Sorry that you're just a blind Homer :rolleyes:


How about we use Net rating? Because he’s above KD if that’s the case.

Or are we just arbitrarily choosing advanced statistics that flatter your objective?
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#66
May 17 2022 12:51am
Quote (Nwotmik @ May 17 2022 02:48am)
How about we use Net rating? Because he’s above KD if that’s the case.

Or are we just arbitrarily choosing advanced statistics that flatter your objective?


I'm using multiple statistics.

I just used 2. And you are basing it on one fucking season LOL.

He is a fringe top 10 player at best. Putting him top 5 is laughable.


What facts do you have outside of you're a Celtics fan and masturbate to him?

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May 17 2022 12:55am
Quote (fuzzy159 @ May 17 2022 04:51pm)
I'm using multiple statistics.

I just used 2. And you are basing it on one fucking season LOL.

He is a fringe top 10 player at best. Putting him top 5 is laughable.


What facts do you have outside of you're a Celtics fan and masturbate to him?


Well I’m quite obviously basing my rankings on the present, hence why I didn’t include kawhi.

If you think Kyrie and Davis are ahead then I’m afraid there’s nothing that we can do to help you. Your brains cooked =(

DM is the biggest Tatum hater I know, and I don’t think he’s even simple enough to claim that!

This post was edited by Nwotmik on May 17 2022 12:57am
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May 17 2022 12:58am
Quote (Nwotmik @ May 17 2022 02:55am)
Well I’m quite obviously basing my rankings on the present, hence why I didn’t include kawhi.

If you think Kyrie and Davis are ahead then I’m afraid there’s nothing that we can do to help you. Your brains cooked =(


Rofl

You think he's on Currys and Lukas level and my brain is cooked. You might be the worst Homer in the history of JSP. Sean is rolling over in his grave right now.
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#69
May 17 2022 01:03am
Quote (ZxFamily-GuyxZ @ May 17 2022 02:28am)
People really need to relax with this Lebron stuff
Giannis already coming up short showed us just truly how great Lebron was and still is.....

Top 7
Giannis
KD
Lebron
Kawhi
Embiid
Jokic
Curry

These guys are on a different level imo

After that, it's really though but I'm going to take the 3 rising stars over AD, Lillard and Harden

# 8-10
Tatum
Doncic (Doncic>>>>>>> if defense is irrelevant)
Ja

My top 10. Top 7 is NOT in order



KD is not the number 2 player in the league, you are high out of your mind for that.



I would take so many players over him, but for u to have him at 2 feels like a blatant troll
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May 17 2022 01:03am
Quote (fuzzy159 @ May 17 2022 04:58pm)
Rofl

You think he's on Currys and Lukas level and my brain is cooked. You might be the worst Homer in the history of JSP. Sean is rolling over in his grave right now.


He’s absolutely on their level.

Might not be ahead, but he’s on the same tier for sure.
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