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Oct 15 2019 05:02pm
Quote (Phaggot @ Oct 15 2019 04:56pm)
Well the family I personally know as I mentioned, are not looking for a random payout. What they want is to not worry about being randomly extradited to the Mainland to go to a trialess conviction and be fucked.

HK being a part of china doesn't matter. It isn't about that. There are specific liberties that are enjoyed by the HK people and this is the first step to taking those away. This is no where near as simple as an extradition bill. This is the first law change that gives Mainland China uncontrollable power over HK citizens. Something that many of them, and even their parents, have not ever lived with. This is new to them. This isn't something like well 65 years ago it was cool so now lets just go abck to that. It isn't the same.

Demonstrators are in the wrong. Of course. That is why they are protesting. They are in the wrong according to Mainland Chinese Faschist ways. THey are in the wrong according to the concentration camps that Mainland China has for Muslims. They are in the wrong wanting a fair and lawful trial to be tried as innocent until proven guilty with fair representation rather than the over 99% conviction rate that exists in Mainland China.

This battle was invetiably going to happen./ It is just starting now. China and Russia are the last two fgt Countries that do not have democracy. The world cannot always live with bi-partisan governments. China needs to fuck off and not be cunts.


Chinese Conecntration Camps run by the Government:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/inside-chinese-camps-thought-detain-million-muslim-uighurs-n1062321

China government admitting to Lying about the GDP:
https://www.afr.com/world/china-admits-its-gdp-data-is-fake-20170119-gtuh42

Death Penalty in China extremely Ludicrous:
https://www.deathpenaltyworldwide.org/country-search-post.cfm?country=China

The chinese government kills thousands of its own citizens each year for simple shit like Marijuana possession.


This is the filth you are defending.


That's a lot of organs.
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Oct 15 2019 05:14pm
Quote (piatek @ Oct 15 2019 06:12pm)
You will struggle here. I tried having this conversation here and other places with American's, e.g. http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=81916049&f=202&p=550641542

The main thing I learned from this, since I have known about things like this and seen it first hand, is how clueless and misguided American's are on these things.

It truly is frightening how brainwashed they are. Russia have started really capitalising on this recently, as we have seen, with their manipulations through American media.

They believe there is no propaganda from the USA, like there is in other countries, more overtly. It happens every day in the media, it's more subtle than other countries though which makes it less detectable.


They get treated differently in America too, far worse historically.


America sucks. Sure it has a bunch of freedoms but all that is negated when we do business we other countries who don't enforce basic human rights. We start war with countries if it benefits our pockets.


We sit in our country bragging about how we are the best whole we go behind the scenes and be best friends with a Chinese government.

Chins controls the us.

This post was edited by Fgs on Oct 15 2019 05:15pm
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Oct 15 2019 05:17pm
Are we gonna pretend like China is a beacon for human rights?

I think the freedom for individual people outweighs freedom to cescede.

I do get info from many different sources and have been for enough time to understand that Chinese sponsored state media is pretty bias and can't imagine how deep in a hole you must be.

Just imagine someone getting pulled over for a DUI or criticizing Trump leads to X years in Guantanamo... that seems like a worthy cause to fight for given all the exploits China has been known for.

Also I think you're underestimating the hate of China a bit too much... I think 75% of #freeHK is due to opposition to China. For example no one in USA really gives a fuck about Kurdish freedom or Palestine independence. Both probably more worthy freedom causes than HK.
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Oct 15 2019 06:23pm
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Oct 15 2019 06:48pm
So many of you are misinformed on this subject.
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Oct 15 2019 06:55pm
Life is so much easier when you accept that you are never truly informed on anything like this, don't choose a side and move on with your day.
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Oct 15 2019 07:00pm
Can someone tl;dr a dumb Aussie the whole situation.

Figuratively (and literally) completely in the dark on this one.
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Oct 15 2019 07:01pm
lmao

Quote (judson04 @ Oct 15 2019 01:08pm)
disappointing, cookie-cutter ZOMG COMMUNISM response, so ignorant bro, i expected better

I'm much more scared of getting shot by a cop when I go home to North Carolina for XMAS than I am of being locked up here....


hahahahha

:Rofl:

This post was edited by Metalmouth on Oct 15 2019 07:04pm
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Oct 15 2019 07:09pm
Quote (judson04 @ Oct 15 2019 02:23pm)
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For those of you who are not aware I'm a Trusted/inactive Med here, from the USA but have been living in China for 7 years now...

No offense to anyone, but you guys truly underestimate how influenced you are by our biased media sources. I also didn't realize it as much as I should until I lived outside the USA for a while. We are truly brainwashed by our biased media. Try your best to wake up and think for yourself...

The HK "freedom fighters" are not what you think they are. Just a few days ago some HK protester stabbed an unsuspecting police officer in the back of the neck with a box cutter "in the name of freedom" It didn't make CNN nor any of the one-sided news sources you read everyday because that would taint the romantic image of the HK protestors which profit our shitty news sources. The US Media Outlets give a biased anti-China account of what's going on to gain ratings and manipulate the situation so they can benefit from the situation.

The Hong Kong, SAR Gov't are just like "everyone chill out" meanwhile protesters destroy and loot and act like idiots. It's OK to throw pipe bombs at innocent police offers as long as you yell "freedom" beforehand? Fuck that..

In some ways, the HK protesters are similar to those who fly a Confederate Flag. Ignorant rednecks yelling "Freedom/Freebird!" Almost like some stupid South Park characters.

International News sources led to a particularly poignant comment: if anyone says anything even halfway deemed 'racist' our media sources will lunge at the opportunity to rile everyone to get out their pitchforks. So why is our media so quick to defend the borderline-terrorist separatist violent HK 'demonstrations' (which often involve attacking police who are forced to not retaliate for fear of backlash). You are so quick to defend the "freedom movement" but, how many of you would defend the Confederate States for trying to break apart from the USA for the "freedom" to establish their own legal system (aka hold slaves)?

How many of you also advocate for gun reform and think the 'NRA is the devil' even though some people think they right to have military automatic rifles is part of "American Freedom". Doesn't this 'freedom" also contribute to school shootings which is the same reason you call for gun reform? So why is fighting for "freedom" OK in HK when it calls for destruction and harm of innocent police officers but not OK in the USA? You are manipulated by our biased media sources. Will you also defend the NRA for the American Freedom to hold military machine guns?

China and Chinese people have every right to be pissed off for the ridiculously biased espousal of violent demonstrations which have in fact severely damaged HK instead of offer any benefit to the people or the city. Anyone who just whimsically supports the HK demonstrators is either ignorant of the situation, trying to frame themselves as some righteous "freedom fighter" not to actually benefit the people of HK but instead to try to benefit themselves. Unfortunately, because of how biased our media is, it's fashionable to support the HK 'protests' no matter how ridiculously violent and destructive they are.

My comments will probably spur a lot of backlash but no joke, you should at least read more international new sources before jump to conclusions. Stop getting your info from CNN/Fox News and wake up...

Love you all <3



Is this account stolen by some shit tiered Chinese agent ?

Or is this dude literally some cuck who moved to China and decided he hated liberty ?
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Oct 15 2019 07:24pm
What are my homeland people doing to the poor americans
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