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Oct 21 2019 03:27pm
Quote (Phaggot @ Oct 21 2019 04:20pm)
He isn't winning he is going to be in jail by then

I’ve heard that since 2015 tho
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Oct 21 2019 04:15pm
Quote (IgoSoHard @ 21 Oct 2019 17:27)
I’ve heard that since 2015 tho



same tbh
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Quote (Phaggot @ Oct 21 2019 02:20pm)
He isn't winning he is going to be in jail by then


yeah LOL

and Hillary will be president
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Oct 21 2019 10:47pm
Quote (judson04 @ Oct 15 2019 03:18pm)
Thank you for the first legitimate and thoughtful response. However, you are still missing the point.

Would you defend the "freedom of speech" if it was racist crap?

Do you agree police brutality is a problem in the USA? How would you feel if Chinese business owners tweeted support for police who shot unarmed innocent black kids?



They support the police in general, smart one
They would obviously disavow the few actual racist police officers who shot an unarmed person. Btw most cases, the officer was exonerated. You’re just sounding like a brainwashed SJW. In China, the government is literally putting Muslims in concentration camps & murdering anyone who dare defies the Chinese government & harvesting their organs. You will end up in the gulag soon, if I had to bet on it
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Oct 21 2019 11:20pm
Is Judson dead? Or is he in camp chained to a rock?

Or maybe jsp was censored from China.
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Quote (Sixers @ Oct 22 2019 04:20pm)
Is Judson dead? Or is he in camp chained to a rock?

Or maybe jsp was censored from China.


Can you move to China pls
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Quote (GiantPhony @ Oct 22 2019 02:58am)
Can you move to China pls


They'd be like HOLY SHIT GODZILLA
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Oct 22 2019 09:01am
is this thread worth the read? need to take a massive deuce.
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Oct 22 2019 09:48am
Quote (MigNado @ 22 Oct 2019 11:01)
is this thread worth the read? need to take a massive deuce.


yes



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The key things here that is definitely what Judson's concern is:

1. NBA organization/players do not have free speech, there are many things that can't be said otherwise.

They have sponsorships they must respect and there is a laundry list of things that people in the NBA organization wouldn't say right now. So if you were to apply this to China being a 'sponsor' then it is simply adding to the list statements which are controversially concerning to said sponsor.

In that case there is no difference, so 'China' has a point there, as a sponsor, it is detrimental to impede and comment on that sponsors controversial subjects.

2. The media focuses on certain things

Remember that it is Western media that are coining the term 'democracy demonstratists' as opposed to 'violent protestors' that trashed Hong Kong parliament causing it to relocate for several months, and have caused already millions of dollars of damage, having killed police officers. etc.

Now, That does not mean that these 'demonstrators' do not have a point.

I know in history every single time a Sovereignty transitioned from archaic forms of rule to more modern inclusive democracy, there has been a revolution. Revolution means death, suffering, and a lot of growing pains.





This post was edited by Phaggot on Oct 22 2019 09:59am
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Oct 22 2019 12:24pm
Dayum still going?

Too much to respond to but I'll try

1. I didn't mean only USA people are brainwashed, in fact almost anyone who only listens to their own country's biased media is brainwashed to some degree.
2. Not gonna lie, was drunk posting the OP (2 am here) but still stand by most of what I said, def had a lil rage tho my bad
3. Perhaps most importantly: I didn't mean to comment or defend any Chinese policy. We got sidetracked in a shit flinging contest. Instead, my points are:

A. HK is part of China USA should mind their business and stop being world police
B. USA has anti-China media and I seriously promise you that what you think you know about China is not accurate unless you've spent some time here
C. Nearly every person I've met in China (along with other expats or nomads I've met abroad) will attest to the fact that they have changed so much after living outside of their home country. Anyone who stays in one place is inevitably sheltered to some degree. I guarantee if you spend some time outside the USA your thought process will change.

In conclusion, although the way China does things is different from USA (sometimes the countries will disagree on what's right) one almost irrefutable fact is that China's way of doing things is growing and the American way of doing things is diminishing. Also, America is moving closer towards China's way of doing things (not the other way arouond) with it's growing acceptance of Socialist policies and increased internet censorship for example about racism or hate speech. In my opinion, the USA is just really far behind and what you think it's taking your FREEBIRD err, freedom is actually just progress for the greater good in the same way tax reform and gun control are steps in the right direction.

This post was edited by judson04 on Oct 22 2019 12:31pm
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