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Oct 17 2019 10:55am
Quote (judson04 @ Oct 17 2019 11:38am)
Neither China's military operations overseas nor internal affairs such as Xinjiang Camps have any confirmed civilian deaths.

120 people are DEAD because of the USA last year (even Pentagon admits) but let's complain about China's treatment of terrorist suspect in Xinjiang (which is better than USA treats black prisoners) ? makes no sense


The US is FAR, FAR from perfect. Black people are oppressed in our country every single day.

But this is what DOESNT happen here:

Xi has, according to the Human Rights Watch, started a "broad and sustained offensive on human rights" since he became leader in 2012.[199] The HRW also said that repression in China is "at its worst level since the Tiananmen Square massacre."[200]

In 2017, the local government of the Jiangxi province told Christians to replace their pictures of Jesuswith Xi Jinping.[201][202][203] The Associated Press reported in 2018 that "Xi is waging the most severe systematic suppression of Christianity in the country since religious freedom was written into the Chinese constitution in 1982", which has involved "destroying crosses, burning bibles, shutting churches and ordering followers to sign papers renouncing their faith".[204]

As of 2019, China is holding one million ethnic Uyghurs in internment camps in Xinjiang.[205][206][207] In July 2019, ambassadors of 22 countries wrote a letter to United Nations human rights officials condemning China’s treatment towards the minority groups. Various human rights groups and former inmates have described the camps as “concentration camps”, where Muslim Uyghurs and other minorities have been forcibly assimilated into China’s majority ethnic Han society.[208] The letter urged China to “refrain from the arbitrary detention and restrictions on freedom of movement of Uighurs, and other Muslim and minority communities in Xinjiang.”[209]

China has declared war on basic human rights. That is unacceptable.

You bought the propaganda. I honestly don't blame you for it. Thats what China is. The US is the same, but our media isnt regulated by the government.

Nothing is banned from being mentioned in the US. We talk about Nagasaki, internment camps, the Trail of Tears openly and freely.

This post was edited by Fgs on Oct 17 2019 10:58am
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The US is FAR, FAR from perfect. Black people are oppressed in our country every single day.

But this is what DOESNT happen here:

Xi has, according to the Human Rights Watch, started a "broad and sustained offensive on human rights" since he became leader in 2012.[199] The HRW also said that repression in China is "at its worst level since the Tiananmen Square massacre."[200]

In 2017, the local government of the Jiangxi province told Christians to replace their pictures of Jesuswith Xi Jinping.[201][202][203] The Associated Press reported in 2018 that "Xi is waging the most severe systematic suppression of Christianity in the country since religious freedom was written into the Chinese constitution in 1982", which has involved "destroying crosses, burning bibles, shutting churches and ordering followers to sign papers renouncing their faith".[204]

As of 2019, China is holding one million ethnic Uyghurs in internment camps in Xinjiang.[205][206][207] In July 2019, ambassadors of 22 countries wrote a letter to United Nations human rights officials condemning China’s treatment towards the minority groups. Various human rights groups and former inmates have described the camps as “concentration camps”, where Muslim Uyghurs and other minorities have been forcibly assimilated into China’s majority ethnic Han society.[208] The letter urged China to “refrain from the arbitrary detention and restrictions on freedom of movement of Uighurs, and other Muslim and minority communities in Xinjiang.”[209]



There are almost no facts in that quote, even though it's clearly anti-China. That's what is so pervasive. No deaths reported. No facts. Whimsical criticism of ideals but no meat to any analysis...

Meanwhile, literally death count of USA bombs on civilians are like "meh" to the USA eyes.

If China killed one single innocent civilian the USA media would go crazy, yet when the USA kills so many civilians people are just like "meh price of democracy"


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Oct 17 2019 11:00am
Quote (judson04 @ Oct 17 2019 09:59am)
If China killed one single innocent civilian the USA media would go crazy, yet when the USA kills so many civilians people are just like "meh price of democracy"


No one says that
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Oct 17 2019 11:01am
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There are almost no facts in that quote, even though it's clearly anti-China. That's what is so pervasive. No deaths reported. No facts. Whimsical criticism of ideals but no meat to any analysis...

Meanwhile, literally death count of USA bombs on civilians are like "meh" to the USA eyes.

If China killed one single innocent civilian the USA media would go crazy, yet when the USA kills so many civilians people are just like "meh price of democracy"


good fucking lord.....

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Oct 17 2019 11:02am
Judson, just curious but why did you choose to move to China again?

Married a Chinese woman if i recall correctly, right? Or was it for military purposes? I can't remember.


No hate, just wondering.
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Oct 17 2019 11:03am
Quote (AnimeA @ Oct 17 2019 10:16am)
Why are you ignoring what china is doing to muslims while condemning the US?

Because it’s easier to deflect than to be objective about all the many issues & problems China clearly has.
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good fucking lord.....


GOOD FUCKING LORD is right...

You will literally jump on the bandwagon and be like "ZOMG NO HUMAN RIGHTS' but there is NOTHING to prove it... but when people DIE, literally fucking DIE by USA hands you don't complain? WTF is human rights if we are legit KILLING civilians?

That's why I'm so angry the hypocrisy is behind bad, it's fucking insane.
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I actually don'y agree with Guant, but since January 2002, 779 men have been brought to Guantanamo. In almost 18 years, 779 people have been held there.

That is a far cry from the CURRENT 1 million Muslims held in concentration camps.
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Oct 17 2019 11:04am
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GOOD FUCKING LORD is right...

You will literally jump on the bandwagon and be like "ZOMG NO HUMAN RIGHTS' but there is NOTHING to prove it... but when people DIE, literally fucking DIE by USA hands you don't complain? WTF is human rights if we are legit KILLING civilians?

That's why I'm so angry the hypocrisy is behind bad, it's fucking insane.


shakes me head.

I am sad for you judson, I really am. Maybe one day you will realize.

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