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Oct 11 2019 04:37pm
Quote (Dominicano @ Oct 11 2019 11:34pm)
Bro fuck that, in America the difference is, although unjustly, Kaepernick lost his job to play in the NFL and settled out of court for 10 mill for the NFL trying to silence him, in other countries, (like China) its the government putting you in jail or making you disappear when you don’t “respect the patriotism.

They did Kap dirty but he has and still is speaking out for his causes.

No shit America has had a policy of supporting dictators and oppressive regimes at their convenience of security and economy, America first foreign policy, although was more nuanced & covert with soft power mostly in the past, is not new and will always be there, but this situation with China telling an American company to shut the fuck up and NBA listening is unique af. And in my opinion a turning point in the world if properly escalated.

You do realise that happens in USA too right? Also people and companies in China successfully sue the government for unlawful bans. As I said, there are examples of each for every case.

Then you are as clueless as we thought if you believe that.

Quote (Dominicano @ Oct 11 2019 11:45pm)
Ah ok so now your going into the realm of US having secret assassin squads for people who dissent against Trump and the government. K. I’m sure we are just like China in regards to banning YouTube & companies who criticize the gov.

🙄🙄 I swear people love to have false equivalencies for the US to defend their points and it’s sickening. The way China treats their people and dissent from their people is NOT EVEN CLOSE to equivalent as to how US treats riots and dissent against their government domestically.

& the only ones who have bowed down to China is the tech companies puckering their lips to cater to their requests as to how to control their domestic issues, such as Google & Facebook etc, & even then that’s subject to a lot of criticism. This is unique in its putting it to the forefront with a fucking Sports League, a fight they chose and hopefully will lose.

This is completely incorrect. I swear you have no idea what you are talking about. Also it's not just China that USA have had to comply with against their will.

Unfortunately your uneducated beliefs about how the USA has been conducting business, and operating in the the international theatre of business and war, are far too common in the country. This is why people are so shocked about what has happened, because pop culture and sports are where the vast majority of American's get their information of the outside world from.

It's new to the NBA, therefore it's new to you.

This post was edited by piatek on Oct 11 2019 05:03pm
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Oct 11 2019 04:45pm
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You do realise that happens in USA too right? Also people and companies in China successfully sue the government for unlawful bans. As I said, there are examples of each for every case.

Then you are as clueless as we thought if you believe that.



Ah ok so now your going into the realm of US having secret assassin squads for people who dissent against Trump and the government. K. I’m sure we are just like China in regards to banning YouTube & companies who criticize the gov.

🙄🙄 I swear people love to have false equivalencies for the US to defend their points and it’s sickening. The way China treats their people and dissent from their people is NOT EVEN CLOSE to equivalent as to how US treats riots and dissent against their government domestically.

& the only ones who have bowed down to China is the tech companies puckering their lips to cater to their requests as to how to control their domestic issues, such as Google & Facebook etc, & even then that’s subject to a lot of criticism. This is unique in its putting it to the forefront with a fucking Sports League, a fight they chose and hopefully will lose.
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Oct 11 2019 06:24pm
Quote (piatek @ Oct 11 2019 03:37pm)
You do realise that happens in USA too right? Also people and companies in China successfully sue the government for unlawful bans. As I said, there are examples of each for every case.

Then you are as clueless as we thought if you believe that.


This is completely incorrect. I swear you have no idea what you are talking about. Also it's not just China that USA have had to comply with against their will.

Unfortunately your uneducated beliefs about how the USA has been conducting business, and operating in the the international theatre of business and war, are far too common in the country. This is why people are so shocked about what has happened, because pop culture and sports are where the vast majority of American's get their information of the outside world from.

It's new to the NBA, therefore it's new to you.


I like how cute and condescending you are, thinking I’m ignorant about how the US deals when my degrees are in US Foreign policy, constitutional law & double majored in Economics, sorry I’m not talking about random situations with you but don’t think a basketball subforum with a complete arrogant idiot that believes we are the same in domestic policy sphere as China is the place for us to discuss the nuances of US economic and foreign policy. This will be my last reply to you.
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Oct 13 2019 08:51am
Quote (piatek @ Oct 11 2019 03:37pm)
You do realise that happens in USA too right? Also people and companies in China successfully sue the government for unlawful bans. As I said, there are examples of each for every case.

Then you are as clueless as we thought if you believe that.


This is completely incorrect. I swear you have no idea what you are talking about. Also it's not just China that USA have had to comply with against their will.

Unfortunately your uneducated beliefs about how the USA has been conducting business, and operating in the the international theatre of business and war, are far too common in the country. This is why people are so shocked about what has happened, because pop culture and sports are where the vast majority of American's get their information of the outside world from.

It's new to the NBA, therefore it's new to you.



I get that you’re a smart guy and knew that this was already happening... But the word is now spreading like wildfire and the public is now concerned. Definitely NOW becoming a HUGE social issue and this is when shit boils.
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Oct 13 2019 01:36pm
Tldr what's going on with the NBA in China? Did China ban NBA for this season / forever? Or is this just a Rockets/preseason thing?
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Oct 13 2019 03:12pm
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Tldr what's going on with the NBA in China? Did China ban NBA for this season / forever? Or is this just a Rockets/preseason thing?


Dom taking an L. Maybe

i didnt read tbh
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Oct 13 2019 05:51pm
America has no culture other than fuck someone out of their money.
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Oct 13 2019 05:54pm
Quote (Malignanttumor666 @ Oct 13 2019 06:51pm)
America has no culture other than fuck someone out of their money.


Not true, we have BBQ
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Oct 13 2019 06:03pm
Quote (ButOniiChanILoveYou @ Oct 13 2019 02:12pm)
Dom taking an L. Maybe

i didnt read tbh



I honestly spoke in way too much generalities & not enough nuance regarding the other non entertainment companies this has happened to, but my points regarding how China deals with dissent vs how the US does, its not comparable at all. & NBA is definitely In a situation to make a monumental shift on a global scale by how they act here. Probably going to just go away in the news cycle tho.
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Oct 14 2019 05:24am
Quote (Succ @ Oct 13 2019 07:54pm)
Not true, we have BBQ


Which we stole


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