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Oct 17 2019 12:52am
Quote (Noun @ 16 Oct 2019 07:36)
Hi Judson. U have any kids yet?


I think he can only have 2
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From pard picture thread
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I mean you yourself are not entertaining any notion that your perspective is biased, incomplete, or mistaken. You immediately dispel any criticism as a result of the critic being brainwashed and uninformed.

If you were trying to start a discussion, then you went about it the wrong way. When a speaker walls themselves off from opposing viewpoints and remains rooted in their own biases and beliefs, then they're only going to elicit similar attitudes and responses in turn. Rather, the speaker should be open to other viewpoints and discuss issues rather than attack the critic's character, which makes anything they have to say invalid before they even say it.

Essentially what you're trying to do here is have a one-sided discussion in which you act as the sole arbiter of truth and dispenser of information while everyone else listens passively as an empty vessel to be filled with information, which is much less of a discussion and more of a lecture.




Yeah touche, you're right I didn't go about it the right way.

Honestly, just think it's close-minded for those Americans who judge but don't actually understand the situation. Also, not talking to you here, but to others, not sure how many times I need to say this, but I never said Chinese media was 100% unbiased of course every media outlet has their own agenda, that's why I try to read both sides and have an informed opinion. I read Chinese news, both conservative and liberal American news, other international news sources, etc.

Also, I live in China and see people spouting the same recycled criticisms about China but they have never been here only believe the one-sided stuff they've read. BTW... I also call-out my Chinese friends when they unfairly judge the USA.

However, although again I was venting frustrating and both getting worked up by trolls and also trolling a bit myself, I admit the issue is complicated and I'm also not 100% without bias nor 100% informed.

However, again the bottom-line is that no matter how you feel, HK is part of China and I think Americans should stay out of China's business and focus on the problems at home. I'm not sure why the USA feels it needs to be the international police force, and for every person they try to "help" seems like they hurt 10 people in the process.

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Oct 17 2019 06:11am
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Yeah touche, you're right I didn't go about it the right way.

Honestly, just think it's close-minded for those Americans who judge but don't actually understand the situation. Also, not talking to you here, but to others, not sure how many times I need to say this, but I never said Chinese media was 100% unbiased of course every media outlet has their own agenda, that's why I try to read both sides and have an informed opinion. I read Chinese news, both conservative and liberal American news, other international news sources, etc.

Also, I live in China and see people spouting the same recycled criticisms about China but they have never been here only believe the one-sided stuff they've read. BTW... I also call-out my Chinese friends when they unfairly judge the USA.

However, although again I was venting frustrating and both getting worked up by trolls and also trolling a bit myself, I admit the issue is complicated and I'm also not 100% without bias nor 100% informed.

However, again the bottom-line is that no matter how you feel, HK is part of China and I think Americans should stay out of China's business and focus on the problems at home. I'm not sure why the USA feels it needs to be the international police force, and for every person they try to "help" seems like they hurt 10 people in the process.



It’s very simple.
Because if people wants to be free, then they have the rights to be.
USA represents the western society so we have to take the lead and step in when needed to be.
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Oct 17 2019 06:51am
Quote (Terps @ Oct 16 2019 04:14pm)
I mean you yourself are not entertaining any notion that your perspective is biased, incomplete, or mistaken. You immediately dispel any criticism as a result of the critic being brainwashed and uninformed.

If you were trying to start a discussion, then you went about it the wrong way. When a speaker walls themselves off from opposing viewpoints and remains rooted in their own biases and beliefs, then they're only going to elicit similar attitudes and responses in turn. Rather, the speaker should be open to other viewpoints and discuss issues rather than attack the critic's character, which makes anything they have to say invalid before they even say it.

Essentially what you're trying to do here is have a one-sided discussion in which you act as the sole arbiter of truth and dispenser of information while everyone else listens passively as an empty vessel to be filled with information, which is much less of a discussion and more of a lecture.


This is the definition of China.
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Quote (judson04 @ Oct 17 2019 05:56am)
Yeah touche, you're right I didn't go about it the right way.

Honestly, just think it's close-minded for those Americans who judge but don't actually understand the situation. Also, not talking to you here, but to others, not sure how many times I need to say this, but I never said Chinese media was 100% unbiased of course every media outlet has their own agenda, that's why I try to read both sides and have an informed opinion. I read Chinese news, both conservative and liberal American news, other international news sources, etc.

Also, I live in China and see people spouting the same recycled criticisms about China but they have never been here only believe the one-sided stuff they've read. BTW... I also call-out my Chinese friends when they unfairly judge the USA.

However, although again I was venting frustrating and both getting worked up by trolls and also trolling a bit myself, I admit the issue is complicated and I'm also not 100% without bias nor 100% informed.

However, again the bottom-line is that no matter how you feel, HK is part of China and I think Americans should stay out of China's business and focus on the problems at home. I'm not sure why the USA feels it needs to be the international police force, and for every person they try to "help" seems like they hurt 10 people in the process.


“Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.”

-MLK

I am appalled that you are okay with the CPC and how many millions of people they've killed/put in camps.

This post was edited by Fgs on Oct 17 2019 06:59am
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Oct 17 2019 07:10am
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lol this
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Oct 17 2019 07:17am
Interesting thread

Next time I wanna ruffle some feathers, seems like the most bang for the buck is to express anti-American sentiment

:rofl:
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Oct 17 2019 07:24am
Quote (Giannis @ Oct 17 2019 09:44am)
To be fair, wouldn’t anyone be frustrated trying to have open conversation only to be met with some of the trolling in this thread? Some of the posters on this forum are pretty much incapable of having an open conversation and that is putting it generously.


Shut ur face up KID
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Oct 17 2019 07:26am
Quote (Bubbler @ Oct 18 2019 12:17am)
Interesting thread

Next time I wanna ruffle some feathers, seems like the most bang for the buck is to express anti-American sentiment

:rofl:


I've been doing this for years kid, catch on already
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