Sorry but thats wrong.

Jon ends up killing daenerys. Post above is leaked spoiler for next episode.

This post was edited by ButOniiChanILoveYou on May 14 2019 04:06pm

I actually don't care... read between the lines...

1. "Theorycraft" (I am not basing this off of anything other than my OWN concept).
2. end of post: "At the end of the day... something else to think of if not already covered"

Thanks for putting it on top of the next page though...

Thought I would just edit this back in.






Theorcraft a different outcome to the show:

Sansa collects up an army under Jons name re-introducing The Widlings to protect Jon from Daenerys and the rest of her army.

Jon and Daenerys get into a mass argument because of what Daenerys done to all the innocent people, he releases Tyrion secretly to send word back to Winterfell.

The Golden Army is not wiped out, they have re-inforcements en-route already and turn up as there is a war between Daenerys and Jon, they side with Jon, during the battle, Jon is killed at the same time as he kills Daenerys's Dragon.

Arya is already there, sees' Jon die, she changes her appearance to that of the Unsullied, gets in close and takes Daenerys's head.

Arya heads North with The Wildlings after mourning Jons death, Sansa goes back to Winterfell, Tyrion survives once again, he takes the throne, no one knows about Gendri... PoD (whatever his name is) gets it on with the Giant Lady who has become Tyrions Righthand Knight or what ever they call it... Gendri is still in love with Arya and chases her. Bran became part of the Tree in Winterfell for the next Three Eyed Raven to be born.

Did that cover like everyone... Tyrion Lannister becomes King of 7 what nots.
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At the end of the day... something else to think of if not already covered... we haven't looked at the remaining armies left... Unsullied, Dothraki, etc... whom they are loyal to... they aren't loyal to Jon.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on May 14 2019 04:17pm

You make no sense, are you saying you think she should have just stood in one place to get crushed by falling debris? Running from an exploding building is cowardly in your eyes?

Fair enough. That wouldn't have bothered me at all and it could have been a rewarding scene. Earlier on I thought Cersei would try and pincer attack the north, catching them off guard immediately after they'd defeated the walkers and then we could have had a scene like that. I understand why they went the other route though, can't have Daenerys turn into a monster killing civilians if they're not in the south and it doesn't make much sense to travel south, when the north already have a general leading them and she dislikes Daenerys.

I imagine she'd still be dismissive of Sansa regardless, seems that's how she treats everyone, but you're right, it could have been good and it would have been a nice close to their arc.



It's painful that the more popular the show, the more difficult sensible conversation becomes.

Glad you rewatched it, I plan on doing that next week, but I want to wait until everything's finished. Even if we can give them the benefit of the doubt and make sense of it, I wish they had gone out of their way to make sense of exactly how Arya was capable of putting herself in that position. Like I've said before, had they used Bran in a way where he was distracting a few different wights/walkers at the perfect moment, so that Arya could sneak in a little bit closer undetected, it would have been a better scene. Them not showing wtf Bran was doing bothers me a lot. Not that I expected him to be a huge help in the battle, but the whole "I'm going now" bit seemed important and for it to just be nothing, was a letdown for me.



EE: And for the second time, why the fuck are people looking up spoilers for something that's ending in a few days? Why would anyone go searching for that, or why would anyone continue to read something that could possible be a spoiler? I get why people like DJ do, they can't follow the show to begin with and want to feel superior for a few seconds, but come the fuck on people.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on May 14 2019 04:46pm

She can just pretend to be a zombie.

It's there, but it's definitely more toned down than in previous episodes.



In a very weird and twisted way, I believe that Cersei had some sort of legitimate care or interest for Sansa at some point, even if she was a massive cunt to her 99% of the time. I too would imagine her being cold and dismissive, but even if she was, the scene can convey a feeling of recognition.

It would have been neat to have Bran say something in that scene, but the score and cinematography of the scene was absolutely amazing, and would have been completely destroyed by a moment like that. They decided to make that part of the show more visceral, which is fine for me personally.

If (keyword) I remember correctly, Bran warged into the crow and other than keeping an eye on the events unfolding outside of the walls, he intentionally distracted the Nightking as Jon was getting in close (that is how I saw it, but, this could also be the opposite way around, he wanted the Nightking to notice Jon to distract him so that other events could evolve, like Arya having time to reach the Nightking and kill him) ... All speculative on my part, but Bran was in his own body when the Nightking appeared, and so he said what he said to the half brother "You are a good man ... etc" which also in retrospect gave more time for Arya to get there, the rest of the dead were just basically watching it all unfold and wouldn't notice anything coming in from behind [EDIT] Also, there was a scene where one of the dead turned his head slightly and his hair fluttered as if something swooped past him [End Edit]... Again, speculative on my part, but, nonetheless, it could be a reasonable conclusion.

I got annoyed by the spoilers displayed, I hope you weren't annoyed at my post just theorycrafting another possible way the show could end, considering my points aren't even close to any of those spoilers...

This post was edited by izParagonzi on May 14 2019 07:13pm

Oh man, no worries at all. That wasn't directed at you and I'm sorry that you thought it was, you're good. I'm totally fine with theory crafting, I actually love doing it lol. I just don't get people that NEED to search the internet for every possible spoiler they can. Some do it because they don't care and that I kind of understand, but the idiots who do it so they can have a single "I TOLD ALL OF YOU" moment, is just fucking sad.

I did break and rewatch that episode. I had to after all this discussion and I'll admit they did it in a way where her approach is feasible, but it leaves a lot to the imagination of the viewer. This is fine in a lot of scenes, but I felt this needed more clarification and it could have been done easily enough with a few quick scenes, or a few lines of dialogue in episode 4. It might have silenced a few of the complainers, but after seeing the barrage of asinine things being complained about, I'm beginning to feel it's impossible to appease the masses unless you dumb your content down to that of a Disney product.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on May 14 2019 11:41pm

So the men fight a battle for the queen and after all that they can't rape them women? Jon is still a boy scout white Knight and he didn't kiss the queen when she tried to fck him.... He still think he's in the nights watch?