Casual

This article mirrors my thoughts pretty well. Ignore the title - I've C&P'd the stuffs i agree with.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/game-thrones-become-cynical-clusterf-140400691.html

"It's massively disappointing, which is what I could say about this season as a whole. The prophecies have all meant nothing. Azor Ahai, the Valonqar, The Prince That Was Promised-it was all a waste of our time. The Golden Company was slaughtered in an instant. Those scorpions that quickly dispatched Rhaegal were suddenly easy to destroy. All Daenerys needed to do to take King's Landing was destroy the wall from the inside? If that's the move, then why not just fly right to Cersei at the top of the Red Keep and just kill her there and take the city without losing a single soldier on either side?

It fundamentally doesn't make any sense. All of these plot devices-the bells, the wildfire, the scorpions, Euron-they were pointless in the end."



"Though the episode as a whole was a mess, there were some satisfying smaller moments that fans did deserve. The final conversation between Tyrion and Jaime was truly touching. "You were the only one who didn't treat me like a monster. You were all I had," Tyrion tells Jaime. Though their story ended in idiotic fashion, Cersei seeing Jaime return for her was weirdly moving. Arya and The Hound's goodbye was a sweet moment that made the young Stark woman about more than just revenge. Hell, I'm even glad we got the Cleganebowl even though the fight had no stakes and The Mountain without his helmet looked like a bloated moldy Varys. All of these were less a result of good writing and mostly effective because of the performances of the actors and what little faith we have left in these characters.

But it's hard to appreciate these moments in an episode that's just completely fucking frustrating. What is the point of any of this? It's as if the writers got done with the Battle of Winterfell, and were like Oh shit we actually have to end this show? I don't know just crush them with some rocks or something."

Nah, not only was this episode great, it redeemed some of the bad episodes this season. I was upset that the seemingly existential threat of the Night King was fairly easily dealt with in one night, but seeing fan favorite Daenerys be revealed as the actual true evil, that's a good twist. Subverting fantasy tropes has always been at the heart of this series, and seeing things gradually transform over the seasons into the "farm boy with a mysterious birth rises to destroy an evil dark lord" boring stuff had me pretty worried that this would end in a very predictable, sterile way. Just like Rob Stark, the Night King turned out to be a bit of a red herring. Watching the supposed hero - one you've been cheering for for 8 years - turn into the biggest monster the series has ever seen, is much more interesting. Was it awkward, and probably happened too quickly? Yes, but that's absolutely the book ending of her story that we watched. Seems people really don't like waking up to the fact that they've been cheering for the bad guy all this time.

She died a sniveling coward.... it was possibly the most fitting death imaginable.

How can anyone think Bran will be king, there's literally 0% chance of that happening lol. Not sure why people are so opposed to seeing what's right in front of them. Bran doesn't even consider himself human anymore and you think he'd agree to ruling mankind... what kind of nonsense thought process is that lol

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on May 13 2019 11:03am

I dont understand either. Its laughable

Don't know their character names... so The Dwarf and the female beheaded at the gates when Cersei had the big dead guy do it... when Danny only had 1 dragon left.



Yup... just like the rest.



Perception is key here. Which of the Queens are truly Evil? Which of the two did more evil acts? Is an evil act done once more atrocious than those of one that has done it more times over a period of years?

Yes, Daenerys went on a rampage and killed many innocent people in this episode, in reality taking information from the book "Art of War", Sun Tsung (spelling) basically said (not word for word, but implied) to WIPE OUT EVERYONE, desolate the land so that NO ENEMY can regroup and come back to kill you... So, taking that into account, Daenerys was very lenient, in Sun Tsungs' opinion, her act was NOT evil, but was effective to a point, but also failed because people survived.

Now let us take Queen Lannister and her acts from season one(1) up towards this season. Damn, she told Jamie to push Bron(Bran) from the tower... a boy. She let Joffrey rule knowing full well his malicious tendencies, also even encouraged it, there are many acts that followed and then wiping out the religious cult and innocent people with wildfire, and even then more hatred appeared and so on to the point where in the end she believed she was invincible only to find that she was just pathetic and died that way.

Again... who out of the two are Evil? Was it the person who did more Evil acts or a person that went on a rampage and only did it once, but, caused the most death? It is perception... and my perception is that the person who does more Evil acts over time is evil. Would I be wary of Daenerys because of what she did... hell yes, but one thing is for certain... kill her Dragon off first, because if you are going to go against her, guaranteed she is easier to kill off when the Dragon is dead.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on May 13 2019 11:11am

People are weird man.... I'm still trying to figure out how the entirety of the online community has concluded that Avengers Endgame is the most amazing and complete movie ever, while GoT is trash and people are comparing this season to the last season of fucking Lost. I'm not saying it's perfect, far from it, but I feel like the entire world has gone fucking crazy.

Will remember for next week.

Nah, I still don't buy this at all. Its about outcome. Who's more evil, Hitler or Jeffrey Dahmer? Stalin or John Wayne Gacy? Those should have some pretty obvious answers. Its unpalatable, but after this episode, its the same with Daenerys vs Cersei.