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May 12 2019 10:58pm
Epic. I get the hate, but I dig it. Her dad’s last words were burn them all. After all the Ramseys, Joffreys, Tywins etc, Daenerys turns out to be the biggest monster of them all...
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May 12 2019 11:02pm
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Epic. I get the hate, but I dig it. Her dad’s last words were burn them all. After all the Ramseys, Joffreys, Tywins etc, Daenerys turns out to be the biggest monster of them all...


Biggest is debatable. She's certainly killed the most people, but Ramsey was by far the biggest monster in the show imo and Joffrey was a close second. Could you imagine what any of those fucks would have done with a dragon? Not sure why anyone would think Tywin was a monster. He was a prick, sure, but he was just a calculating cutthroat bastard.
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May 12 2019 11:06pm
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Biggest is debatable. She's certainly killed the most people, but Ramsey was by far the biggest monster in the show imo and Joffrey was a close second. Could you imagine what any of those fucks would have done with a dragon? Not sure why anyone would think Tywin was a monster. He was a prick, sure, but he was just a calculating cutthroat bastard.



Nah, they were bad, but she has a giant kill count of innocents now. Nobody even comes close. I don’t think any of those guys I named would burn about a million civilians if they had the chance to. Only Aerys, and his daughter. Game over

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Nah, they were bad, but she has a giant kill count of innocents now. Nobody even comes close. I don’t think any of those guys I named would burn about a million civilians if they had the chance to. Only Aerys, and his daughter. Game over


If you say so. Maybe you should rewatch the show. One made target practice out of innocent girls for shits and giggles and the other dismembered people for kicks.... Again, her kill count is certainly higher (as already stated), but a single act of rage doesn't make you a horrendously sick person that would get joy from cutting off someone's dick and feeding it to them. You see the difference?

e: Would be like you saying that Hitler is more evil than Ted Bundy, because his kill count is higher. It's hard to quantify evil, but evil with a purpose versus unadulterated malevolence are different tiers of evil imo.

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May 12 2019 11:13pm
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If you say so. Maybe you should rewatch the show. One made target practice out of innocent girls for shits and giggles and the other dismembered people for kicks.... Again, her kill count is certainly higher (as already stated), but a single act of rage doesn't make you a horrendously sick person that would get joy from cutting off someone's dick and feeding it to them. You see the difference?



Haha nah I don’t at all. “Single act of rage” = 1 million people. She took it to a new level. She doesn’t have to be a sadist to be a mass murderer. Doesn’t matter if she got off on it, like Joeffrey or Ramsey. She’s surpassed them in a big way.
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May 12 2019 11:32pm
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Nah, they were bad, but she has a giant kill count of innocents now. Nobody even comes close. I don’t think any of those guys I named would burn about a million civilians if they had the chance to. Only Aerys, and his daughter. Game over


You thinking that Ramsey or Joffrey wouldn't have done the same given the chance is hilarious. They would have done it without requiring all of the emotional and mental torture to drive them to it in the first place.
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May 12 2019 11:54pm
Well... episode 5 right.

Did not even bother reading any posts from page 61 onwards... no point... The episode was around 1 hour and 20 minutes (minus intro etc) and did not bother listening to the crap that was going to come out of the mouths of the Directors, story writers and whomever for the last what... 10 minutes.

What a fucking complete utter fuckup of the previous 2 episodes. I can understand the crap with like the Night King and all that considering they were undead and so on.

I have to give it up for a little bit of strategy here in this episode... like about 1 second strategy planning on coming down on a dragon and using the sunlight to blind them... yup... that was great, understandable and perceivable... yet, they show the MASS destruction ONE(1) dragon can do... blowing up ships, building, fortresses and the rest annihilating everything in their wake... yup... awesome.

Again... strategy fucked up... with all that nuclear power versus a country that doesn't even possess a 10th of destruction... why not just take the Palace and queen in one foul swoop. Too easy right... so instead they just show one(1) dragon annihilating all the mounted scorpions, Eurons fleet with scorpions then decimating buildings instantly.

The Euron / Jamie crap... that wasn't the problem, the Hound / Mountain fight, that was great to watch, the looks on the faces of people on either side was good, the grief and anger portrayed was decent, the revenge was good, the maniac side of things, that was okay and so forth... but for fuck sake... you make dragons look weak previously then all of a sudden one(1) dragon wins the war... come on, at least bring it to the ground so that it doesn't have aerial advantage.

Out of this season... this was the best of them outside of what I stated. Action packed as it should be and a bit more sensible besides the previous episodes portraying that it was a load of crap.
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Quote (StayPositive @ May 13 2019 06:13pm)
Haha nah I don’t at all. “Single act of rage” = 1 million people. She took it to a new level. She doesn’t have to be a sadist to be a mass murderer. Doesn’t matter if she got off on it, like Joeffrey or Ramsey. She’s surpassed them in a big way.


This is the most fucked up argument I have ever seen written on this site.

"Rage", this is an instance related to time, a person reflects rage by emotions during a time period which is pertained by length of Rage. Stating "Single act of rage" implies that it could be 1 second or 30 minutes for an example... this does not imply any EVIL intent, it is all emotional. Certain things that encourage Rage in a person are triggered by anything like an action, word, phrase, image etc, thus putting that individual in a Fit of Rage where they lose any empathy or conscience of their actions.

Now... you totally fucked up... Joffrey / Ramsey weren't doing the things that were evil in fits of rage, they did it because it pleased them and they enjoyed it, whereas, a person doing something horrific in a fit of rage would be remorseful.

I depict that you are similar to Joffrey and Ramsey, you don't have a clue in what you say, you just say it because you enjoy the outcome of stating it.
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May 13 2019 01:55am
Quote (StayPositive @ May 12 2019 11:06pm)
Nah, they were bad, but she has a giant kill count of innocents now. Nobody even comes close. I don’t think any of those guys I named would burn about a million civilians if they had the chance to. Only Aerys, and his daughter. Game over


Her kill count is large because she has more power.
More power doesn't make her a better or worse person. When saying who is the bigger "monster" it's about the character's characteristics.

If Mother Teresa accidentally slips and hits the nuke button and blows up the world, that wouldn't make her a monster.

This post was edited by FroggyG on May 13 2019 01:57am
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May 13 2019 02:02am
Quote (Blah58 @ May 12 2019 11:32pm)
You thinking that Ramsey or Joffrey wouldn't have done the same given the chance is hilarious. They would have done it without requiring all of the emotional and mental torture to drive them to it in the first place.


I can imagine Joffrey with his snarky laugh while he's on the dragon just burning innocent people to death.
Ramsay would probably be more intimate with it. He would find one person and just torture them with the dragon.

This post was edited by FroggyG on May 13 2019 02:03am
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