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May 8 2019 05:23am
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ 8 May 2019 10:44)
I'm right there with you man. The writing has had some issues, but 90%+ of what I'm hearing people bitch about, is shit that doesn't even make sense. I guess audiences really do need to have their hands held.

As far as the whole Mad Queen thing goes, it seems pretty obvious that Danny and Jon are going to be going up against one another. Danny is already losing her shit, and when she finds out that Jon went and did something she begged and pleaded with him not to do, she's going to break. I personally don't like the comparisons between her and the Mad King. Worse case scenario, she wants to burn the city down to end a war and secure her crown, hardly the same as an all powerful dictator burning people to death for kicks.


why do you protect the writers so much? the writing has major flaws and at times they contradict their own stuff

since you mention the dothraki in the post before this one, that scene was literally the biggest loss of life in the entire show
a complete army of several ten thousand wiped out in a minute for no reason whatsoever
then the most retarded battle tactics of all time, not even the worst commanders could manage that

dont get me wrong, i still love the show, but from season 6 onward the plotholes have become bigger and bigger

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May 8 2019 05:40am
Quote (ampoo @ 7 May 2019 17:37)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahoHDU0T44I

:wallbash:


idiot writers i swear
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May 8 2019 06:53am
Quote (Blah58 @ May 7 2019 05:19pm)
Sorry but you're wrong. Not sure if you paid attention to episode 4, but they basically spent the entire time doing their best to fuck with Danny emotionally and mentally.

The dragon dying served a purpose.
Just like her being virtually ignored at the feast.
Just like her seeing Cersei execute her friend.
Just like her seeing Jon be Kingly at the funeral.

The entire episode was about disrupting her character.


See, this is where you're wrong.

I never say that the death of the dragon DIDN'T serve a purpose - far from it. The way the dragon died was my "beef". I even mention in my post that "I get the point - they want her to start to go "mad queen" mode, but they fucked it all up".

Did you even read what I said? lmao.

Just to be a bit more concise for you.... The dragon should have died during the battle for Winterfell, not shot out of the sky in an absurd manner by precise sniper shots from scorpions.
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May 8 2019 07:16am
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ May 7 2019 08:28pm)
Just ignore them. We've got one guy who thinks Cersei "let Danny live" and another guy who believes bringing up a single example of a young dragon (he was approximately 1/4 the size) getting hurt means that Danny should be scared to use her dragons lol. But ya, I'm the one making terrible arguments....

I'll never understand the mindset of the masses tbh. Funny how they just pick and choose what to nitpick about and what to ignore. I'm still laughing over Endgame being celebrated as one of the best movies ever, while we've got people losing their minds about the Dothraki not being used in a way they've never been used before, less lighting in an episode that needed less lighting to set the tone and now this, we've got people losing their minds over a cup and over Danny (a character who's obviously being pushed into a certain direction) underestimating her opponents, something she always fucking does. Just painful listening to these complaints, especially when there are actually legitimate things to complain about.



I provide counterpoints to people who can't formulate coherent thoughts. I apologize that I came across like an asshole when doing so, but if people could provide more than "BECAUSE I SAY SO" as the basis of their arguments, I wouldn't have to humiliate them(you). You're the guy who honestly believes Cersei, the crazy bitch who blew up the biggest church in her city to kill her enemies, killing hundreds of civilians in the process and who is currently using her civilians as meat shields, was in a position to kill the person she sees as her only opposition to ruling the seven kingdoms and you think she didn't do it because she "didn't want to look bad"? The only time she was in danger was when she crossed Greyjoy's fleet, Cersei never was in a position to harm her or anyone other than Tyrion. I've already said it makes no sense for Tyrion to have survived that encounter and that's a legitimate complaint, but thinking Cersei let someone like Danny live to protect her image, is an impossibly dumb thing to believe and seeing as your only counter argument is "You're a meanie head", I think we both know how wrong you are.



:rofl:

Cracks me up when people don't really remember shit, but want to bring it up anyway.


a full grown Drogon got hit by a scorpion shot by Bronn you twit.
Cracks me up when people talk out of there ass and dodge direct examples that counter their B.S.

E: here is the video - to keep it nice a tidy for you.



This post was edited by djman72 on May 8 2019 07:27am
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May 8 2019 08:03am
Quote (djman72 @ May 8 2019 01:16pm)
a full grown Drogon got hit by a scorpion shot by Bronn you twit.
Cracks me up when people talk out of there ass and dodge direct examples that counter their B.S.

E: here is the video - to keep it nice a tidy for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecQDJmagNUc


What does this prove? :huh:

Like what's the argument?
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May 8 2019 08:16am
Quote (WelSh @ May 8 2019 09:03am)
What does this prove? :huh:

Like what's the argument?


That Dany should be just slightly more aware that these weapons exist and to protect her dragons. Maybe scout ahead when you're moving your armies down to KL and your awaiting enemies that have been preparing for you. Maybe fly higher than the range of these weapons when your gallivanting down the coast line. Anything at all.

My point/argument is that the WAY her dragon died last episode was stupid - not to be confused by some ignorant people that a dragon actually died. Makes sense for a dragon to die to encourage Dany's slide to the mad queen which should be fun to watch next episode. She's going to go full scale destruction on KL.

The dragon's death should have been a little more thought out. During the battle of Winterfell and the undead would make perfect sense. The "Surprise - Here's Euron!!!!!" Perfect scorpion shots x3 was lazy and honestly, i laughed at how silly it was.
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May 8 2019 08:22am
Quote (djman72 @ May 8 2019 02:16pm)
That Dany should be just slightly more aware that these weapons exist and to protect her dragons. Maybe scout ahead when you're moving your armies down to KL and your awaiting enemies that have been preparing for you. Maybe fly higher than the range of these weapons when your gallivanting down the coast line. Anything at all.

My point/argument is that the WAY her dragon died last episode was stupid - not to be confused by some ignorant people that a dragon actually died. Makes sense for a dragon to die to encourage Dany's slide to the mad queen which should be fun to watch next episode. She's going to go full scale destruction on KL.

The dragon's death should have been a little more thought out. During the battle of Winterfell and the undead would make perfect sense. The "Surprise - Here's Euron!!!!!" Perfect scorpion shots x3 was lazy and honestly, i laughed at how silly it was.


perhaps it should have been more thought out but how would it fit into dying during Winterfell battle vs undead? the whole point of dragon dying to Euron is to make Dany go full ham on KL like you said
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May 8 2019 08:32am
Quote (djman72 @ May 8 2019 07:53am)
See, this is where you're wrong.

I never say that the death of the dragon DIDN'T serve a purpose - far from it. The way the dragon died was my "beef". I even mention in my post that "I get the point - they want her to start to go "mad queen" mode, but they fucked it all up".

Did you even read what I said? lmao.

Just to be a bit more concise for you.... The dragon should have died during the battle for Winterfell, not shot out of the sky in an absurd manner by precise sniper shots from scorpions.

It was a [in the writers minds] a necessary plot point. They needed the Dragon to die, so Dany would run away, so euron could smash their ships, so Grey worms boo would get captured, so she could be executed in front of Dany, so perhaps Dany goes full mad king & destroys kings landings?

& you’re saying you don’t like that...I can understand that. They had to kill some of her dragons off eventually though, otherwise she’d be pretty unstoppable, even with the addition of the overly op scorpions.
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May 8 2019 08:50am
Quote (-=vasya=- @ May 8 2019 09:22am)
perhaps it should have been more thought out but how would it fit into dying during Winterfell battle vs undead? the whole point of dragon dying to Euron is to make Dany go full ham on KL like you said


The dragon dying by the hands of Euron has nothing to do with Dany going full ham. She would be just as aggravated if the dragon died by the undead as it would still be dead.

It's not a huge issue - the dragon was going to die anyway to level the playing field and contribute to Dany's insanity and rage. I'm just being critical, as it was poorly done in my opinion.

Quote (IgoSoHard @ May 8 2019 09:32am)
It was a [in the writers minds] a necessary plot point. They needed the Dragon to die, so Dany would run away, so euron could smash their ships, so Grey worms boo would get captured, so she could be executed in front of Dany, so perhaps Dany goes full mad king & destroys kings landings?

& you’re saying you don’t like that...I can understand that. They had to kill some of her dragons off eventually though, otherwise she’d be pretty unstoppable, even with the addition of the overly op scorpions.


Agreed. It's not a huge glaring issue like the time travel we had in past seasons. I just didn't like the way it was done. Dany has 3 dragons, one of which already died in spectacular fashion by the night king for Resurrection and destruction of the wall. That was how a death of a dragon should be done as it had purpose. The death of this dragon is more or less pointless.

I guess my main gripe would be that it should be a bit more of a major event. It seems like they were just like "welp, we gotta kill this dragon so let's hide the pirate behind a mountain and have him headshot the dragon so we can hurry along to the kings landing scene."

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May 8 2019 09:31am
Keeping in line with the episode and the dragon death scene more reasonable would have been better if the 15 or so Euron ships all fired at once at the dragon and you see a lot of the bolts missing and 3 actually hit. This would have made more sense, the only issue with this happening was the fact that they had both dragons riding side by side.

To make it even better, why not have Jon riding the dragon that died and he survived when it plummeted into the water, but, Danni did not know this and thus would have added more RAGE as she dives in head first then banks away to check on Jon.

Above would have been more sensible and also adding fuel for rage.
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