Except I’m a globe earth’r

Chavas and card don’t get my attention anymore

I didn’t deny this movie was amazing

We're mostly in agreement that it was a good-great movie, which is fantastic, but when the writer, director and everyone involved have been as blunt as possible in telling their audience that this film has zero ties to the previous Batman movies (Burton, Nolan or the travesties), there isn't room for debate about whether or not this is the origin story for Ledger's joker. It's a fact that it isn't, hence myself and others telling you that this isn't a matter of opinion discussion.

You're entitled to believe whatever you want to believe man, but believing a lie doesn't make it an opinion, hence the flat earther comparison by Flameyes.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Oct 10 2019 03:48pm

Believing a lie?




Same here
Fuck I was laughing so hard[/QUOTE]

This has nothing To do with anything I said.
I said this joker movie was a great origin movie, one we the fans deserved to see over the other dc WB garbage
Then I went on to say that watching this, that it makes more sense to me why joker would be so mad(insane) not care about money and how angled that character is towards the Wayne family.

You said "it explains ledger's joker after knowing what made him so dark."

It doesn't, because the characters are not connected. That's all that myself and others were pointing out to you, but then we went down this weird rabbit hole.

E: As I said before, if it was an honest mistake I get it, we all say shit accidentally, or get mixed up from time to time, but doubling down on something that's false is never a good way to go.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Oct 10 2019 03:58pm

We gotta be honest on this
Every actor has given something remarkable to this character.
Nicholson was a great mafia joker
Ledger nailed every aspect
Phoenix gave him a darker more realistic look
And well Leto did an incredible job at the worst joker ever


And yeah I said to me it makes sense why the joker would be such a madman.
They may not be a connected character but the concept remains.
The joker is a madman. This helped me see how the joker could be so crazy.
We never saw an origin until now.

This post was edited by hunter_1 on Oct 10 2019 04:02pm

Not in theaters, no, but the Killing Joke follows a character of the same name (Arthur) with some similarities. DC has always done a good job of keeping his backstory as vague as possible. This was a great look at one possiblity and it could work as an origin story for a more realistic joker, but the insanely over-the-top and brilliant ones like Ledger/Mark Hamil, are best left to the imagination of the viewers imo.

Part of what made Ledger/Nolan's joker so perfect was how he made up different origin stories on the spot to fuck with people. His enigmatic and chaos incarnate approach was as close to perfection as we'll ever see and a backstory would only detract from that. That's just my personal opinion on that, I'm sure loads of people would kill for the chance to get a real backstory on Ledger's joker, it's just not for me though.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Oct 10 2019 04:18pm

exactly

Fuck man

daily dose of cancer:

Joker is a product of white supremacy left unchecked. Joker movie accidentally exposes whiteness. (c)

- "a handful of irrelevant people with absolutely no reach whos hateful views in no way radicalize thousands of gullible followers" a.k.a. the New York Times

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This post was edited by HeLiCaL on Oct 10 2019 05:17pm

I think Joaquin might be up for a sequel. As usual there is speculation all over the net. It’s something that I would watch but probably best if they didn’t make another joker movie.That director may change his mind. What does jsp think?

This post was edited by Malignanttumor666 on Oct 11 2019 12:59pm