Quote (DaJockaz @ May 2 2019 02:41pm)

For those who cry it was too dark.... it was the whole point :wallbash:

Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ May 2 2019 11:55am)

How could you possibly think that?



People really need to understand that the books and the show are not the same thing. Nissa Nissa hasn't been discussed at all in the show, Azor Ahai was mentioned briefly, but it never meant a damn thing, as the only one it was mentioned about died like a punk. I don't understand how people expect them to tie in shit that's not even relevant in the show. I'm still hoping there's more to what happened and that we'll get some closure in the next three episodes. If there isn't, we still have the books, which will almost assuredly have Jon kill the NK, or at least play a huge part in his demise and we can safely assume that the real secret of the NK/Bran is just too convoluted to cover in a TV show aptly.

I don't give a shit who kills the NK, but I do care about the story and them glossing over all the build-up for how it concluded was weak as hell. It does seem like Arya coming out on top was more of a fan-service thing than anything else, but again, I'm still hoping this isn't the end. There's also the possibility that they figure Jon is going to be doing enough in the Cersei -> Danny stuff, that they didn't want to have the last four episodes be literally allllllll Jon, someone fans hate (for whatever fucking reason). Which is understandable, but the fans only have only themselves to blame for being whiny little cunts lol.

Quote (Loops @ May 2 2019 09:39am)

Still holding out some hope that there's a big twist about Bran in the next episodes.

Like WTF was he doing during the battle except warging some crows??
And why was it soo important that Jon knows his lineage asap? Trying to stir some shit up maybe idk.

Quote (Flameyes @ May 2 2019 01:46pm)

Also another thing that I’m not seeing anyone talk about is why the nk was able to bring back the people in the crypt. Some of those people have been dead for an incredibly long time, so why couldn’t the nk just go to any location where anyone had died in history and bring them back?

It doesn’t really matter because that part of the story literally had no impact, but that seems like a massive plot hole that they just decided to include to create some cheap tension

Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ May 2 2019 06:41pm)

He can? That's why his army was endless..... That's the least sensible (next to people complaining about it being dark) complaint I've heard yet.

Quote (Flameyes @ May 3 2019 09:46am)

Also another thing that I’m not seeing anyone talk about is why the nk was able to bring back the people in the crypt. Some of those people have been dead for an incredibly long time, so why couldn’t the nk just go to any location where anyone had died in history and bring them back?

It doesn’t really matter because that part of the story literally had no impact, but that seems like a massive plot hole that they just decided to include to create some cheap tension

Quote (izParagonzi @ May 2 2019 07:47pm)

Ah, okay, what have you been smoking? The Night King brings back the dead within a radius, he doesn't instantly teleport to any dead anywhere in the world, that is ludicrous. If that was not what you were trying to say, then I suggest you explain it a bit more clearly, because that is what I am reading in your post.

Quote (Blah58 @ May 2 2019 12:23pm)

1) The Dothraki have been able to charge like this and win for literally their entire history. This being a complete failure is new to them. It's their battle tactic that they have used in every single battle they have ever been in. What they did is a shock tactic, it just didn't work cuz the dead are dead. Plus it sets the tone for the rest of the show. It gets Danny involved with her dragons and it just looks awesome.

2) Honestly who fucking cares. The wolves don't matter in the show, they are literally just fan service.

3) I'd wait to see how they decide to end all of the characters stories before getting angry that not enough were killed here. Like if Brianne goes on to do nothing then die in a later episode then yeah she should have died here. Just have to wait and see. Also I think if you killed too many it would lessen the effect of the deaths that did happen.

4) 1 Walker dying means thousands of wights die. Makes sense to keep them away from the fight.

5) Warged into Ravens to view the battle. What do you expect him to do? Like honestly. He isn't some Grand Wizard, he is a crippled kid that can see stuff. He spent a lot of time moving pieces on a chess board, now he has to wait and see if it worked. He didn't do nothing, what he did was more subtle than throwing fire from his hands.

6) Her reason for existing is to help defeat the Night King, which she did. She isn't fucking Nissa Nissa, and even if the show decided to use the prophecy it wouldn't have been the Red Woman that was killed to make Lightbringer. This is just an extremely stupid thing to be salty about.

7) Just like the red woman, and many other things in this show, buying Arya time so she can do what she needed to do was what mattered. His death wasn't "half hodor" the amount of symbolism in his death was insane. It was literally a mirror of Jesus dying on the cross, side stab included.

8) Who cares? Most people didn't do anything other than kill wights... Why should Jon be any different?

9) An assassin who has trained basically her entire life to be an assassin didn't deserve to assassinate the guy attacking her home? Also "deserve"? There is no "deserve" in life, just shit that gets done, and Arya got shit done. Plus all the fucking set up for it happening. Like her sneaking up on Jon in the same location, or using the same knife trick in her fight with Brianne. This kill was great, anyone who says otherwise is just clinging to fantasy tropes that GoT has never used.

10) GRRM helped craft the show. He told the show runners how it will play out. If you think GRRM is going to fall into typical prophecy/"the one" destiny trope bullshit then you are insane. Plus this show isn't the books, so saying "cry why isn't the show the books cry" is literally the weakest argument possible.

11) The night king was a side quest. The main story has never been about him. The good guys need to deal with him because if they don't the world ends, but he isn't and has never been and was never meant to be, the main villian. He is exactly what they said he is many times, he is death. I feel like the rest is just a summary of previously discussed points.

Edit: typos

Edit 2: also I'm pretty sure the night king doesn't exist in the books.