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Apr 12 2017 08:15pm
Dont get me wrong, I enjoyed the show...don't regret watching

It's not a masterpiece by any means like most are claiming though. kinda close but they failed on a few things to make you actually feel bad for the girl legit in my opinion. (except last 2-3 ish episodes..) when you should of felt bad watching during the WHOLE show
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Apr 12 2017 08:42pm
Quote (Nevada @ Apr 13 2017 02:09am)
Dude I know all that
Point is She wasn't raped UNTIL the 11th episode......UNTIL THAT you had no sympathy for her AT ALL (10th episode of cley's tape , then the rape and last episode is where you get sympathy) but first 9 episodes were dragged and overexageration. I found myself bored a lil watching until last few episodes because I just wanted to know why she did it and I was tired of all the dragging leading up to the final tape)

UP To that point before with all the guys saying nice ass WHILE WEARING JEANS and shit MOST GIRLS would be proud of that in todays society, girls are half naked on instagram posting butt pics, cmon...SURE for some it can be direspectful but NOTHING to think worth suiciding over lmfao

Im not fucking dumb I know it uses flashbacks, do you think im like 5 years old? and that I dont know it all leads up to the suicide?


EVERYBODY gets abused and 10 times as worse as she was, she was a pretty girl, and she played hard to get and it backfired on her a few times.
NOTHING leading up to the rape scene WAS LEGIT worth suiciding over. kids in high school have it 10 TIMES worse than this I can assure you

FIRST 10 EPISODES, I WATCHED ALL WITH A STRAIGHT FACE AND NO EMOTIONS AT ALL....ZERO, I was like watching a thriller instead of a sad movie/show. this is how it felt to me and trust me im not shy to admit, if I see a dog die in a movie or someone dies cancer etc im usually pretty quick to get sad (obviously not gonna cry like a baby especially in front of people lol) but you get the point...im not heartless and I do have emotions but this show brought out none out of me at all until last 2-3 episodes and even there I was in no point no shredding any tears at all, I just felt bad and thats it.


Trust me, a girl like the main actress with how beautiful that girl is is just not realistic to have her be in a suicidal movie because most of what happened to her in that movie beside the rape thing is not realistic at all for a girl like her.
She was perfect and we're supposed to think she has no friends and cant get friends? and that everybody out there is there to hurt here? cmon.. lol

If a girl like this was getting bullied in any real school, most "tough guys" would go protect her and tell these bullies to fuck off and would instantly friend her instead of watching other kids humiliate her

Also if the main actress was ugly it would been more believable that she wants to suicide, like lets say shes fat af...ugly face, everyone calls her ugly, fat, disgusting and she knows shes ugly then you can feel for her
but when its a fucking 12/10 hot chick? and she wants to suicide because people say "nice ass" give me a break

I know not only ugly girls that can suicide, but they use a 1% top tier looking girl as that role is just weird...



SPOILER: beside the rape thing the real true message that made me sad was that she killed herself because she liked cley but she thought he didn't care that much because he was too scared to show his true love to her
rest I could care less


I'll repeat this again, you ARE the problem with today's culture.

1. Not all woman want their asses grabbed or talked about. Men make woman feel incredibly uncomfortable crossing personal boundaries.

2. i do think you're dumb. You complained about her acting during the show, not recognizing the specific pacing of the show. it's obvious and nothing to complain about. Should she have been excluded from the show? surely we would have gotten to know her better if she wasn't even there :wallbash:

3. she didn't play hard to get....where are you getting this from. She flirted with a couple guys she liked like both genders do. Your language and choice of words tells me you're incredibly immature. Not every girl posts half naked pictures on their choice social media platform, you only notice it more because you enjoy it.

4. I wasn't abused 10 times worse than she was, how can you say everyone? How can you judge mental capabilities of other people? You are completely naive.

5. I've been to high school. When I was a sophomore ( i believe), the first iphone came out. Social media was barely a thing. I am sure the high school atmosphere is far worse than it was 10 years ago.

6. Now, I've never cried like a baby during a movie, but are you honestly that scared about showing emotion?

7. I'll repeat, again, males of females of all levels of attractiveness can commit suicide. You are completely disregarding a girl's feelings just because she isattractive. You are literally saying sexual abuse for anattractive female isn't possible. You were literally educated and raised poorly.

8. SHE HAD FRIENDS, jesus christ. You didn't follow the show at all. She had multiple fallouts with several people. she was new at school AND just because you're attractive, it doesn't guarantee you friends.....especially if social rumors arise in the school, like they did in this case.

9. in this show, those "tough guys" ran the school. Pay attention. You fail to realize that bullying in school happens in every single school, and these days......kids just stand around and watch with the cell phones raise waiting to get likes on facebook.

10. She ultimately committed suicide because.....

-she was part of a false rumor sexually, and being called slut for unwarranted reasons.
-she was part of a sexually based "best of class" paper that she didn't want to be a part of. This led to people always staring at her making her feel incredibly uncomfortable among being grabbed by bryce in the store.
-she was being stalked and photographed, and she didn't know why.
-She had fallouts with nearly all of her friends.
-She went on a date who seemed to be genuine and sincere, but he ultimately just wanted to have sex with her because the rumors said she was easy.
-the above instance made her lose so much trust with men
-her parents were stressed and that took a small toll on her, but a larger one after losing money even though it was just a small amount. This just further induces failure in her eyes.
-she had issues with the love life she wished to pursue, and by the time something positive was happening, the level of trust in men had damaged her severely already.
-she was raped. she was raped. she war raped. She was raped by someone who she witnessed rape her ex friend.
-she lost confidence in adults with the guidance councilor (and other adults) not being able to help her. although, she didn't give up the name of the rapist, by the she had already lost all hope. She was hurt that the councilor said that it didn't matter because he would be gone next year, graduated.



She killed herself for the reasons above, and more, not just one relationship with Clay.

You have a horrible sense of what went on this show, and you clearly are a horrible human being who does not understand social issues and how they effect people.

Just in case you haven't been taught.......

Females, attractive or not, are not your play toy. They don't always want you to gesture at them, touch them, make rude, sexual remarks, or even bother them at all if you don't know them.




Try again if you want to argue, you're living in a fantasy world where issues only happen to ugly people.

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Apr 12 2017 08:45pm
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Apr 12 2017 08:44pm
Quote (Nevada @ Apr 13 2017 02:09am)
Dude I know all that
Point is She wasn't raped UNTIL the 11th episode......UNTIL THAT you had no sympathy for her AT ALL (10th episode of cley's tape , then the rape and last episode is where you get sympathy) but first 9 episodes were dragged and overexageration. I found myself bored a lil watching until last few episodes because I just wanted to know why she did it and I was tired of all the dragging leading up to the final tape)

UP To that point before with all the guys saying nice ass WHILE WEARING JEANS and shit MOST GIRLS would be proud of that in todays society, girls are half naked on instagram posting butt pics, cmon...SURE for some it can be direspectful but NOTHING to think worth suiciding over lmfao

Im not fucking dumb I know it uses flashbacks, do you think im like 5 years old? and that I dont know it all leads up to the suicide?


EVERYBODY gets abused and 10 times as worse as she was, she was a pretty girl, and she played hard to get and it backfired on her a few times.
NOTHING leading up to the rape scene WAS LEGIT worth suiciding over. kids in high school have it 10 TIMES worse than this I can assure you

FIRST 9 EPISODES, I WATCHED ALL WITH A STRAIGHT FACE AND NO EMOTIONS AT ALL....ZERO, I was like watching a thriller instead of a sad movie/show. this is how it felt to me and trust me im not shy to admit, if I see a dog die in a movie or someone dies cancer etc im usually pretty quick to get sad (obviously not gonna cry like a baby especially in front of people lol) but you get the point...im not heartless and I do have emotions but this show brought out none out of me at all until last 2-3 episodes and even there I was in no point no shredding any tears at all, I just felt bad and thats it.


Trust me, a girl like the main actress with how beautiful that girl is is just not realistic to have her be in a suicidal movie because most of what happened to her in that movie beside the rape thing is not realistic at all for a girl like her.
She was perfect and we're supposed to think she has no friends and cant get friends? and that everybody out there is there to hurt here? cmon.. lol

If a girl like this was getting bullied in any real school, most "tough guys" would go protect her and tell these bullies to fuck off and would instantly friend her instead of watching other kids humiliate her

Also if the main actress was ugly it would been more believable that she wants to suicide, like lets say shes fat af...ugly face, everyone calls her ugly, fat, disgusting and she knows shes ugly then you can feel for her
but when its a fucking 12/10 hot chick? and she wants to suicide because people say "nice ass" give me a break

I know not only ugly girls that can suicide, but they use a 1% top tier looking girl as that role is just weird...



SPOILER: beside the rape thing the real true message that made me sad was that she killed herself because she liked cley but she thought he didn't care that much because he was too scared to show his true love to her
rest I could care less


the fact that you cant get past "she is beautiful" so nothing bad would happen is the point...

it all started out b/c she is a hot chick so every guy wanted to fuck her.. and not know the real her

so after a pic goes around.. all the guys see her as a sex object instead of a person.. which breaks down a person after awhile

being sexually assaulted twice...by the marcus guy in the diner and than byrce in the store and than gets raped by bryce.. and the thing that breaks her is when porter pretty much told her that no one would believe her and to get past it


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Apr 12 2017 08:53pm
I typed all that in just a few mins and english isn't my first language dawg. I explained some things wrong but you obviously don't understand my point

I've got all that happened to her but she didn't help herself and It didn't make me feel bad during the whole show which it should have (except last 2-3 episodes, first 9 didn't feel a thing at all)


You said it yourself, you did not shed a single tear until the end, meaning the movie did a poor job at making you feel bad for her either the actions were good or not.

GOING with all she went through, while watching you SHOULD of felt bad and shed tears, but we did not, at all.
Poor execution, I felt sadder watching stuff not as intense as this tv show.

Also I never said the acting was bad, I praised the acting...they were all really good actors.

This post was edited by Nevada on Apr 12 2017 08:53pm
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Apr 12 2017 08:56pm
Quote (Nevada @ Apr 13 2017 02:53am)
I typed all that in just a few mins and english isn't my first language dawg. I explained some things wrong but you obviously don't understand my point

I've got all that happened to her but she didn't help herself and It didn't make me feel bad during the whole show which it should have (except last 2-3 episodes, first 9 didn't feel a thing at all)


You said it yourself, you did not shed a single tear until the end, meaning the movie did a poor job at making you feel bad for her either the actions were good or not.

GOING with all she went through, while watching you SHOULD of felt bad and shed tears, but we did not, at all.
Poor execution, I felt sadder watching stuff not as intense as this tv show.

Also I never said the acting was bad, I praised the acting...they were all really good actors.


shedding a tear once, doesn't mean i was emotionless the whole time.....what an incredibly poor assumption.

You didn't explain anything. You let us know that, in your mind, attractive females can't have problems, and only ugly females should have social problems.

I don't care what your first or second language is, I didn't comment on your ability to write.

I never said the acting was bad, why are you bringing that up?


Honestly, you need to learn some social respect for females. I'm afraid you are the exact target audience that this show hopes to improve.

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Apr 12 2017 09:00pm
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Apr 12 2017 08:59pm
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shedding a tear once, doesn't mean i was emotional less the whole time.....what an incredibly poor assumption.


fucking child.


You're the child talking shit and calling names over a tv show, maybe you're a bully yourself irl?

We agree to disagree, move on dude.
Im not bashing the fucking show I said I liked it and just wish it made me care more for the girl in the first 9 episodes....a story like this you should feel alot sadder than this when watching

What do you fucking want from me?
We have different opinions, move on

Show is good, lacks something.
Great acting etc
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Apr 12 2017 09:01pm
Quote (Nevada @ Apr 13 2017 02:59am)
You're the child talking shit and calling names over a tv show, maybe you're a bully yourself irl?

We agree to disagree, move on dude.
Im not bashing the fucking show I said I liked it and just wish it made me care more for the girl in the first 9 episodes....a story like this you should feel alot sadder than this when watching

What do you fucking want from me?
We have different opinions, move on

Show is good, lacks something.
Great acting etc


You would have cared more if you had better morals and the ability to sense what is right from wrong in the social world.

I am defending the female gender, that of which you seem to have little respect for.

If you want to move on, you may leave the topic of discussion.

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Apr 12 2017 09:02pm
Quote (Nevada @ Apr 12 2017 10:59pm)
You're the child talking shit and calling names over a tv show, maybe you're a bully yourself irl?

We agree to disagree, move on dude.
Im not bashing the fucking show I said I liked it and just wish it made me care more for the girl in the first 9 episodes....a story like this you should feel alot sadder than this when watching

What do you fucking want from me?
We have different opinions, move on

Show is good, lacks something.
Great acting etc



Dude you watch wwe, how are you criticizing shows?
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Quote (stupidkid282 @ Apr 12 2017 11:01pm)
You would have cared more if you had better morals.

I am defending the female gender, that of which you seem to have little respect for.

If you want to move on, you may leave the topic of discussion.


You couldn't be more wrong. I'd said the same freaking thing if the main characters were reversed and the suicide thing was about Cley. it has nothing to do with genders.

As I said, show did a poor job at making you feel bad for her in the first 9 episodes not because of the actions people did to her but mostly her reactions and previous actions and how she handled the situations

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Apr 12 2017 09:08pm
Quote (Nevada @ Apr 13 2017 03:06am)
You couldn't be more wrong. I'd said the same freaking thing if the main characters were reversed and the suicide thing was about Cley. it has nothing to do with genders.

As I said, show did a poor job at making you feel bad for her in the first 9 episodes not because of the actions people did to her but mostly her reactions and previous actions and how she handled the situations


Are you going to make me quote the multiple times where you stated that it shouldn't have happened to her because she was attractive? I.E you have no respect for women.


Man, what kind of education are they teaching you guys up the in Canada?


:wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Apr 12 2017 09:09pm
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