there is still some part of me left clinging on to reality. Might as well use it.

They would know the lie by doing the experiments themselves. The reason Tesla's "inventions" are not used today is not because of some shady big business conspiracy. It's because nobody can replicate his work. If your work can't be replicated then there's no reason to assume it ever really worked in the first place.

Imagine being the company that found a way to get free energy to everybody. You would literally put every other company out of business over night by providing your service at a cheaper rate to more customers. You would go from selling electricity at 100x the rate to a million people to providing it at 1x the rate to 6 billion people. You don't need to run the numbers to know thats more profitable.

Your name would literally be taught in every school book for the rest of time as the person who fixed the energy crisis, and the few companies that provide electricity now would be massively dwarfed by companies like google that would absolutely LOVE free energy to run their millions of servers on! If there was a way to get free electricity Google, Apple, Microsoft, and every other tech giant that would love to have cheap easily deliverable electricity would totally overwhelm every electricity company trying to keep this secret to themselves.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jun 18 2020 10:42am

Tesla went stock raving mad in his old age, he died at 86.
I'm not saying he wasn't a smart man but he was his own demise.
No one killed him, if he was a perceived threat it would of happened at a much younger age.

You and everyone I Fucking know ate gmo's as a kid. They've been around for 30+ years.
If the risks were so GREAT we would be seeing the effects. The vast majority of crops are GMO crops.

Instead we see farmers not getting sick producing larger yields, food withstanding droughts and extreme weather.
I'm not saying its not without inherent risks what I'm saying is without GMO's far more people would starve/suffer.
If the risk is the same as eating non gmo's then why have people suffer. Or are you the type that cares about you and no one else?

Assuming Tesla actually did figure out free energy. You just answered why they never would replicate his work. Even if they did know how, they would never be that stupid to actually do it. It pretty much augments what I said earlier about limitation and control. The schools don’t even bring up Tesla in their history books. It’s all about Edison.

Not enough people experiment. Not enough people with great minds choose to become engineers. Instead it’s all about finance and business. Most people are motivated by profit, not progression.

human bodies are much bigger than rats and mice. We are very resilient to a bunch of shit. Therefore we last longer. Just because you can’t see the changes in your body. Even collectively very small changes over time. It doesn’t mean that change did not happen. Gmo will always be unnatural and a hazard to a human’s health. It isn’t the only cause of cancer but definitely one of the big ones.

Show me empirical evidence stating GMO's cause cancer.....
You can't cause to this date there's no such thing.

If you wanna make a conscious decision not to consume GMO's because evidence may come to light in the future fine.
But don't feed me bullshit that they know with any certainty that there's a greater risk

I'd also ask you to not leave your house cause I mean you "may" get struck by lightning or hit by a car both have a greater risk of killing you now.

then why did the lab mice develop cancer after consuming gmo?
Mice have dna too. They are made up of the same stuff that makes us. This does not worry you?

That study was debunked.
But yes lets take old info (more importantly the only thing you can find) and use it as a definitive truth to push your argument.

The specific study you are citing was utilizing a mouse model that is known to develop spontaneous tumors (and were used specifically for that reason), and when statistical analysis was done the GMO and non-GMO group did not have different rates of tumor development. I know exactly which study you are referencing because when it came out it was circulated ALL OVER the pseudo-science parts of the internet.



I actually didn't answer why it would never work. I specifically gave you a list of super-powerful organizations that would save billions of dollars a year if they could replicate his results and haven't, and that's not even mentioning the trillions of dollars a year they could make by selling it. That's a pretty damn good reason to suspect that Tesla never actually figured out what he claimed to have figured out.

Believe me, I agree that we need to put more money into science and getting people into science. You're preaching to the choir on that one. Not enough people are scientifically literate, and as a result believe really silly things like 5G causing Covid19



Anyway, the point is that the conspiracy you are trying to say exists doesn't exist. In science there are many MANY competing entities that would love to dick over every other entity with a new invention. There isn't some grand conspiracy to corrupt science, the real corruption is much more bland. It's the fossil fuel companies trying to spread doubt about global warming, and the sugar industry funding research into why fat is bad, and stuff like that. There is no centralized authority on science that wants to delude the masses on basic things like how to grow crops, or to fudge the data on emf sensitivity.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jun 18 2020 03:14pm

The study was about rats, not mice.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691512005637

Taken from the article:

[Unequivocally, the Editor-in-Chief found no evidence of fraud or intentional misrepresentation of the data. However, there is a legitimate cause for concern regarding both the number of animals in each study group and the particular strain selected. The low number of animals had been identified as a cause for concern during the initial review process, but the peer review decision ultimately weighed that the work still had merit despite this limitation. A more in-depth look at the raw data revealed that no definitive conclusions can be reached with this small sample size regarding the role of either NK603 or glyphosate in regards to overall mortality or tumor incidence. Given the known high incidence of tumors in the Sprague–Dawley rat, normal variability cannot be excluded as the cause of the higher mortality and incidence observed in the treated groups.]

It seems kind of odd that scientists would use a low sample size. Maybe they were threatened and will comply with anything that would discredit them. There is a reason why several European countries ban gmo. It isn’t because they are crazy.

Maybe you are right about powerful corporations making a killing on free energy. I’m not knowledgeable in the field of engineering and electricity. So I don’t really know. But isn’t energy already free? Aren’t there all kinds of methods to harvest it. However, living in a world which embraces capitalism, people would never make anything free no matter what it costs. Even if it cost a fraction of a penny. Whoever has control over it will sell it at higher price.

There is a conspiracy to control intellectual thought. I believe that I brought it up years ago. That in high school they teach the incorrect model of the atom. And then someone pointed out that I was right and higher understanding lies within quantum mechanics. To me wrong is wrong even if you do it 10 years straight, it’s still wrong. Education in the united states is designed to limit people. It’s not a conspiracy theory. It’s a conspiracy. And as long as the information is controlled by these powerful corporations, there will never be true intellectual freedom. Because that is against their interest. Scientists are controlled by money. They work for these assholes. Do you think they would oppose their employers?

This post was edited by Malignanttumor666 on Jun 18 2020 10:23pm