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Apr 14 2021 10:31am
Bottle neck isn't a term that's applicable to computers only. It could mean to cars and traffic. What it means is that a certain portion or piece is causing/imposing limits.For example, in cars and traffic, when a 4-lane road goes to 2-lane, that's bottle necking. In the situation with your PC, you have an CPU that's causing things to go 2-lane.

So you use this PC for gaming, but you haven't told us your problems that is making you want to upgrade. I don't get it. There should be a reason, but I think the majority of us here don't understand. If anything, just to keep up with modern/latest specs, you should upgrade your CPU. But given your lack of knowledge, I don't think that's going to be easy for you to do (applying thermal paste, cleaning off the old one from your cooler, unscrew the mounting, etc.).

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Bottle neck isn't a term that's applicable to computers only. It could mean to cars and traffic. What it means is that a certain portion or piece is causing/imposing limits.

For example, in cars and traffic, when a 4-lane road goes to 2-lane, that's bottle necking.

In the situation with your PC, you have an CPU that's causing things to go 2-lane.


please tell me how the 2700x is bottlenecking his pc
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Apr 14 2021 10:35am
I'm only pointing out his GPU can use PCIe Gen4...and yet the 2700X is only up to Gen3.

Someone else pointed out to use a Samsung 980 which is Gen4. This will be another bottleneck by the CPU.

Am I missing something here where 2700X is Gen4 or enables/supports Gen4?

https://community.amd.com/t5/processors/can-ryzen-7-2700x-take-advantage-of-pcie-gen-4/td-p/193578

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I'm only pointed out his GPU can use PCIe Gen4...and yet the 2700X is only up to Gen3.

Someone else pointed out to use a Samsung 980 which is Gen4. This is also another bottleneck by the CPU.


depends on what he is doing and resolution
read these

https://www.techspot.com/review/1893-pcie-4-vs-pcie-3-ssd/

https://www.techspot.com/review/2104-pcie4-vs-pcie3-gpu-performance/

dont go throwing bottelneck around until you actually know what he is doing with said machine

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Apr 14 2021 10:50am
No, I think I'll stand by my previous posts where I stated something along the lines of "it's probably being bottlenecked" and "we don't really know what you're using it besides gaming, and that's still not specific to the problems you're experiencing".

And then to the "best bang for your buck" or suggested upgrades where someone mentioned SSD, it's probably better spent on CPU, than SSD.

I don't think your article is a close representation of the point I'm trying to make here. With the SSD link, I'm always a fan of Gen3 than Gen4, because the money is not worth that incremental value. As for the GPU, you should be looking at reports/benchmarks of a fucking 2700X on Gen3 vs something like 5600 on Gen4. This performance boost is probably like 10-20% better.

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No, I think I'll stand by my previous posts where I stated something along the lines of "it's probably being bottlenecked" and "we don't really know what you're using it besides gaming, and that's still not specific to the problems you're experiencing".

And then to the "best bang for your buck" or suggested upgrades where someone mentioned SSD, it's probably better spent on CPU, than SSD.


i can agree on this because even 5600x/5900x has better single core performance

but at 1440 or higher resolution cpu doesnt really matter for gaming

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-5950x/22.html
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Apr 14 2021 11:03am
Given the lack of issues the user is experiencing, we can only make blind comments. Now that we know the specs, this should deviate away from RAM and into the CPU, with the best bang for the buck being directed towards CPU.

We now also know that the game he's primarily playing is Valorant, which is a CPU heavy game rather than graphics. The user is better off upgrading his CPU to the latest trend, like Ryzen 5000 series.

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Given the lack of situational issues the user is experiencing, we can only make blind comments. Now that we know the specs, this should deviate away from RAM and into the CPU, with the best bang for the buck being directed towards CPU.

We now also know that the game he's primarily playing is Valorant, which is a CPU heavy game rather than graphics. The user is better off upgrading his CPU to the latest trend, like Ryzen 5000 series.


not sure if thats really worth it either
better off saving his money until its needed
unless he is playing at 1080p but then again upgrading his monitor might be best bet right now considering component prices atm
but we dont know what he has there
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Apr 14 2021 11:20am
So just to confirm, according to the only link that's actually relevant this discussion (which is the third one with CPU performance relative to other CPUs, categorized at resolution), you don't think that on the 1080 resolution with 2700X ranked at 88% and going to a 5600X is a dollar well spent or best bang for your buck?

I purposely neglected the 1440 resolution charts because in the discussion/comments to your link, there's some discrepancies from the chart itself from an actual user that upgraded from a 2700X to 5600X.

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Apr 14 2021 12:07pm
I run 165hz 1440.

I only use the pc for gaming.
The monitor copied from amazon that i use
ASUS TUF Gaming 27" 2K HDR Curved Monitor (VG27WQ1B) - WQHD (2560 x 1440), 165Hz (Supports 144Hz), 1ms, Extreme Low Motion Blur, Speaker, FreeSync Premium, VESA Mountable, DisplayPort, HDMI , BLACK

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