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Aug 6 2023 02:14pm
Just going to toss my 2 nickles into this conversation by saying I have literally advertised the use of JSP in game since the dawn of my account. I actively recruit new users from IN GAME with local chat and whispers. I have yet to be banned from ANY of blizzards games or the many others I do this in.

The users being banned are people who are selling BILLIONS of gold or being dumb enough to speak about eBay selling or give out a PayPal/venmo/cashapp address to receive payment in. I have never had issues speaking about JSP or telling the user I'm trading with a items price in FG vs IGG.

I again actively seek out users to inform them about jsp, it's benefits not only on the game we are playing in but any game here with a subforum. The many perks of not letting your time and wealth acquired in game A go to waste when game B comes out and all your game time transfers to that one.

The users who are actively telling you not to speak about FG or JSP in game with them during a trade are 1 of 2 things.

Retardedly gullible and will believe anything they read on the internet
Scammers actively seeking gullible morons to get free things from.

Without identifying yourself, the trade and its agreed amount all you do is make it that much harder to prove someone scammed you when you have to make your S/A post and plead your case to our mods

This post was edited by exado on Aug 6 2023 02:16pm
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Aug 6 2023 02:16pm
Quote (imir4cle @ Aug 6 2023 12:06pm)
FG is not RMT.

Ask any bank or central bank.

Too limited usage.


What are you even trying to argue right now?

That it’s unfair and you’re complaining?

Or that blizzard or other game developers aren’t going to ban for this? Because we’ve definitely seen evidence that they will.
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Aug 6 2023 02:19pm
Quote (cjw236 @ Aug 6 2023 09:16pm)
What are you even trying to argue right now?

That it’s unfair and you’re complaining?

Or that blizzard or other game developers aren’t going to ban for this? Because we’ve definitely seen evidence that they will.


Saying we should have the freedom to store ingame wealth anywhere and how we want.

We shouldnt be forced to store it just in IGG/items as it loses value faster than venezuelan pesos because they cant control bots.
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Aug 6 2023 02:19pm
Quote (exado @ Aug 6 2023 04:14pm)
Just going to toss my 2 nickles into this conversation by saying I have literally advertised the use of JSP in game since the dawn of my account. I actively recruit new users from IN GAME with local chat and whispers. I have yet to be banned from ANY of blizzards games or the many others I do this in.

The users being banned are people who are selling BILLIONS of gold or being dumb enough to speak about eBay selling or give out a PayPal/venmo/cashapp address to receive payment in. I have never had issues speaking about JSP or telling the user I'm trading with a items price in FG vs IGG.

I again actively seek out users to inform them about jsp, it's benefits not only on the game we are playing in but any game here with a subforum. The many perks of not letting your time and wealth acquired in game A go to waste when game B comes out and all your game time transfers to that one.

The users who are actively telling you not to speak about FG or JSP in game with them during a trade are 1 of 2 things.

Retardedly gullible and will believe anything they read on the internet
Scammers actively seeking gullible morons to get free things from.

Without identifying yourself, the trade and its agreed amount all you do is make it that much harder to prove someone scammed you when you have to make your S/A post and plead your case to our mods


A little bit of confirmation bias here. Can send screenshots and gold logs of my friend on jsp who got permanently banned in D4 for “abusing game economies” and he had nowhere close to “BILLIONS” of gold. He barely even made any fg before he got banned but he was wrecklessly talking about fg/jsp in game all the time.
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Aug 6 2023 02:21pm
Quote (imir4cle @ Aug 6 2023 04:19pm)
Saying we should have the freedom to store ingame wealth anywhere and how we want.

We shouldnt be forced to store it just in IGG/items as it loses value faster than venezuelan pesos because they cant control bots.


So you’re complaining that Blizzard’s subjective rules are unfair? Welcome to the real world…..
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Aug 6 2023 02:24pm
Quote (cjw236 @ Aug 6 2023 04:19pm)
A little bit of confirmation bias here. Can send screenshots and gold logs of my friend on jsp who got permanently banned in D4 for “abusing game economies” and he had nowhere close to “BILLIONS” of gold. He barely even made any fg before he got banned but he was wrecklessly talking about fg/jsp in game all the time.


Lies, I've spent the ENTIRE time I've been on D4 recruiting users to JSP. I have about 2 dozen of them who can come post here with their freshly made accounts confirming I met them in Eternal realm while selling NM dungeon clears vs IGG off LFG on Xbox and enlightening them of the wonders of this forum.

Your friend definitely made actually cash from the game, or sold/bought LARGE quantities of gold/items to be banned. And it has to be LARGE amounts because I've bought a few billion since this game has been fucking me hard on rerolls (items just eating my money and mats)
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Aug 6 2023 02:26pm
Quote (exado @ Aug 6 2023 04:24pm)
Lies, I've spent the ENTIRE time I've been on D4 recruiting users to JSP. I have about 2 dozen of them who can come post here with their freshly made accounts confirming I met them in Eternal realm while selling NM dungeon clears vs IGG off LFG on Xbox and enlightening them of the wonders of this forum.

Your friend definitely made actually cash from the game, or sold/bought LARGE quantities of gold/items to be banned. And it has to be LARGE amounts because I've bought a few billion since this game has been fucking me hard on rerolls (items just eating my money and mats)


That’s called confirmation bias, my friend. Just because you weren’t hit doesn’t mean others weren’t either.

Can show you a bunch of screenshots if you want to take it to PMs. This was his first Diablo title and he self-leveled to 75 before even playing with me. So no, he did not accumulate mass wealth or sell tons of items on other platforms. Can even invite you to our discord if you want to see.
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Aug 6 2023 02:28pm
Quote (exado @ Aug 6 2023 04:24pm)
Lies, I've spent the ENTIRE time I've been on D4 recruiting users to JSP. I have about 2 dozen of them who can come post here with their freshly made accounts confirming I met them in Eternal realm while selling NM dungeon clears vs IGG off LFG on Xbox and enlightening them of the wonders of this forum.

Your friend definitely made actually cash from the game, or sold/bought LARGE quantities of gold/items to be banned. And it has to be LARGE amounts because I've bought a few billion since this game has been fucking me hard on rerolls (items just eating my money and mats)


Also, a bit immature for you to say “Lies”. What do I even have to gain from lying? I’m one of the most prolific jsp users and advocates on here 😂
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Aug 6 2023 02:32pm
Quote (cjw236 @ Aug 6 2023 04:28pm)
Also, a bit immature for you to say “Lies”. What do I even have to gain from lying? I’m one of the most prolific jsp users and advocates on here 😂


The same thing anyone has to gain from spreading misinformation on this site. Less competition selling/trading your preferred profit service to keep the wheel of income turning faster.
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Aug 6 2023 02:37pm
Quote (exado @ Aug 6 2023 04:32pm)
The same thing anyone has to gain from spreading misinformation on this site. Less competition selling/trading your preferred profit service to keep the wheel of income turning faster.


Bro that is some intense Illuminati shit lmao. 180k fg is nothing IRL, this is not a source of income for me when I have a job lol.

If you took a step back, you would realize that less people trading on JSP also means less buyers / sellers for me to benefit from as well.

I’m saying that people shouldn’t discuss FG/JSP openly in game, not that people shouldn’t use the service. I literally buy and sell items everyday if you want to check my post history lol.
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