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Aug 6 2023 03:50am
Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Aug 6 2023 11:47am)
but in my example, it's not RMT


Yes it is. Fg can be aquired with real money. And The simple answer to this post is. Yes it is against tos to trade things for fg. You can ofc use this site to trade item vs item since that isnt forbidden.
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Quote (tsubar @ Aug 6 2023 02:50am)
Yes it is. Fg can be aquired with real money. And The simple answer to this post is. Yes it is against tos to trade things for fg. You can ofc use this site to trade item vs item since that isnt forbidden.


yes, but in my example the person selling the item for FG to another person, is not acquiring the FG through real money. that doesn't fit "exchange of payment"

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And fg is the payment. Is Fg blizzard own currency?

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And fg is the payment. Is Fg blizzard own currency?


but the seller who acquired the FG sold an item for that FG, he never exchanged $ for it. i do agree with your other point, but in my case, i believe it doesn't violate (blizz doesn't care about that nuance, they just have a blanket view of if jsp = bad)
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Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Aug 6 2023 12:02pm)
but the seller who acquired the FG sold an item for that FG, he never exchanged $ for it. i do agree with your other point, but in my case, i believe it doesn't violate (blizz doesn't care about that nuance, they just have a blanket view of if jsp = bad)


Well. In one way i dont blame them. This site was created to bot the living hell out of d2. I would have a pretty bad view on a site like that if i had a gaming company. And in your example i think you are even breaking 2 different games tos. Since people seem to be soo scared in poe that people talk about jsp
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Aug 6 2023 05:47am
jsp is treated like all the other sites you can buy items/resources for money, even tho fg can be obtained by selling other items you can still buy fg for real cash so blizzard don't care = you get banned.
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Aug 6 2023 10:06am
Quote (tsubar @ Aug 6 2023 10:45am)
You should read the rules someone posted on first page. Explains the rules.


Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Aug 6 2023 10:47am)
but in my example, it's not RMT

It says "exchange of payment"


FG is not RMT.

Ask any bank or central bank.

Too limited usage.

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Quote (Snyft2 @ Aug 5 2023 07:02pm)
according to them, its rmt because it can be bought for real money

i dont wanna go into legal definitions cause im bad at that, and i also dont give a shit about their definitions, im still gonna use jsp ^_^

edit: the pic above actually!


Interesting D4 Jsp trades get banned, the same blizzard not banning D2R trades :o
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Aug 6 2023 12:38pm
It is not 'illegal'. It is against the TOS. You cannot argue against it no matter how unfair you think it is because it's a game not an essential service and companies are given wide leeway to moderate their players. Unless your country passes laws that directly overturn the TOS you have no leg to stand on.
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FG is not RMT.

Ask any bank or central bank.

Too limited usage.


Does count as it soo yes and it is in the tos.

And for the example you said at start. Car and toys beeing RMT. Ofc it is. How the hell are you paying with them otherwise? Stones and leafs?

Soo what if it have limited use. You can still use money to aquired them. Aka RMT.
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