Cannot rely on chance. Only boarder it.

i dont see how you would use grief if you can afford Last Wish

Last wish gives you so much better equipment options

the speed difference of 10 seconds is minimal imo

I agree that Astreons is best though

Such as?

i used a 1 pt smite build

68CB last wish PB
CoA(Ber,Ber)
eth exile(45 resist vortex)
enigma archon
verdungo
laying of hands
rare tri element boots
bk+raven
metal grid

i dont think i ever died, i could solo ubers and do organ runs

it might have taken me 5 minutes to do the whole thing honestly. i know "numbers" wise grief and astreon are better but you have to make up the crushing blow elseware


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This post was edited by Infamous_WuBird on Jan 4 2011 06:07am

Your item set is extremely weaker than that which I've originally posted. Laying of Hands is a complete waste of glove slot on a smiter since %DtD does not apply to smite.
This topic is not about survival, which could be done with an Iratha's set. This topic is about DPS.

notice i said 1pt smiter build

notice what i said in my original post please.

to elaborate my point

the beauty of last wish is you could be a v/t or a hammerdin, throw on LW and solo ubers, its that good via damage and survivability(as long as you have good resists)

Yes, thats the only thing thats good about lw. But this topic is about pure uber smiters, not hybrids.

the thread topic doesnt say that it just says Last Wish vs Grief recalculated

i think you guys are missing the point of making Last Wish.

for a pure smiter Astreons and Grief are runaway winners, but for overall effectiveness vs Ubers there is nothing better than Last Wish dare i say any melee character that uses it can probably manage in Ubers.

the problem with you guys argument is you are only taking damage into account, when ubers as far as ive known survivability is far more important, because the difference between killing them in 5-10 seconds is as ive said before negligible

LW also looks cooler

i mean look at some of this lol

goblin toe? draculs? string?

its not only overkill on CB but its severely lacking in resists among other things