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i rly like this guide!
10/10 like they would say in trophy room
funny how clear you can get an answer with math^^

well and imo asterons>grief/lw (i like style on my chars^^)

Does the + % dmg to Demon from grief apply to smite?

no. % damage to demons does not apply to smite or kicking.

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This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Dec 24 2010 02:06pm

Thanks

imo i like lw more.
My setup:
lw pb
ap coh
2os coa
seraphs(the %damage to demons/undead + the +skills is much better than highlords)
evexile 45 res(15 aura 1818def)
raven
5%bk
nosferatus(I didnt like dungos)
20ias/dual leech/5cb/9str/13life/21light res gloves
anni
tons of lifers and lifer/max damage scs
some fhr/all res scs

i ubered in a 4person game and stayed alive the whole time. granted it wasnt super freaking fast but i lived. another guy w/ a similar setup as mine in game but w/ grief kept dying. I would much rather have 3 chances at a life tap than 2 or even 1. also my char is zealer/smiter and if i remember correctly i used zeal over smite to see if i could uber like that.

This is a great write up but at the end of the day it all comes down to personal preference and how rich in game a person is. I just thought id add my 2cents! If you would do this again with a richer setup =D that would be great! lol

Sure you'd die with grief with such terribly shitty setup.

coa? lol
seraps, LOL. ed to demons/undead doesn't even work with smite
bk? You can't leech with smite. Even dwarf is better.
nos.........
5 cb gloves? What for?
And why the hell coh? Just prebuff fade with treachery and use forti or duress.
max dmg scs? Those dont work with smite either.

It's not about "richer setup". It's about good and effective setup. As we can see, expensive items often are not the best.

Oh, and you only need 1 hard source of LT. Use lifetap wand on switch and cast LT with it before you attack.

Lw does suck. It offers absolutely nothing.

This post was edited by TheBe on Jan 3 2011 06:20am

you clearly did not read what i posted....I used ZEAL for the better part if not all of then run. How exactly do you know the % to demons doesnt work on smite? Smite does not receive added damage vs. undead with the Sanctuary aura...just the aura not items. tbh i didnt know md didnt help but i only have 2 of them anyways and they have fhr or life with them...so its all good. I know you ONLY need 1 however i have had LT not hit when you need it to too many times. prebuff and swtiching is a pain in the butt to me. I would rather have a setup and use it.

My setup cant be that bad cause i didnt die once and killed them while others were dying. I even tested lw against a groef pb tonight. friend said grief helped a tad but his life dropped too much/too fast but w/ lw his life stayed higher.

I see your point and I suppose I could make a char exactly like yours....but then i would be a follower.....being a follower blows. my setup works =P so ill stick with it and kill them jsut fine and without dying.

nos........ gives str/saves stat points for life....also gives 10ias.....and slows target.....how is that bad?
coh gives you res/str/replenish life and dr and +2 skills for bo...which OMG gives more life!
i could use a grief pb with my setup and more than likely survive...but im nl and i dont want to spend a fortune getting one. ppl charge more for a grief than a lw or the same price. so why not go with something that doesnt need a prebuff and does what i want if a tad slower?
whast wrong with coa? it gives +1 skill(higher bo/fanat=more damge) dr/res and i can socket it with whatever the hell i want.....

my "such terribly shitty setup" works! it cant be that bad =P so go get a life mister 30k+ posts on a video game forum.

This for sure.

agreed