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Feb 26 2014 05:37pm

Quote (Alone @ Feb 27 2014 12:37am)

is there any TL;DR version of this argument between Seb and Jomblified?

I am right, he's wrong :rofl:

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Feb 26 2014 05:46pm

I think what needs to be considered is that you will indeed find more magic shakos in relation to white ones..which is the function of magic find. In comparison, you get much more bang for your buck on blue items than when compared to unique items. Most charts prove this and so does the calc.

Like any science, it can be flawed and numbers can be skewed. I suggest performing whatever methods yield the best drops for you. These include but are not limited to : Running low % mf totals for equal loot chance, using mf from charms only, mf from gems only, various before game superstitions(wearing a particular shirt or under garmet), and finally whatever form of sacrificial means you find needed.

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Feb 26 2014 05:48pm

Quote (sebhehe @ 27 Feb 2014 01:37)

I am right, he's wrong :rofl:

so would you use 450 or 1500 mf mate? ;D

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Feb 26 2014 05:55pm

Quote (mysticsword353 @ Feb 27 2014 12:46am)

http://i.imgur.com/9rWCjwk.png

I think what needs to be considered is that you will indeed find more magic shakos in relation to white ones..which is the function of magic find. In comparison, you get much more bang for your buck on blue items than when compared to unique items. Most charts prove this and so does the calc.

Like any science, it can be flawed and numbers can be skewed. I suggest performing whatever methods yield the best drops for you. These include but are not limited to : Running low % mf totals for equal loot chance, using mf from charms only, mf from gems only, various before game superstitions(wearing a particular shirt or under garmet), and finally whatever form of sacrificial means you find needed.

Those are not unique embbalmed numbers tho, are they?

I get the same numbers for regular monsters ^^

Embalmed - mummy3 (H) Ancient Tunnels 1:499617

Quote (Alone @ Feb 27 2014 12:48am)

so would you use 450 or 1500 mf mate? ;D

If I could kill as fast with 1500 (which is an impossible number btw) I'd go with it.

Going over the 400-500-600 is usually not worth it, because of that.

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Feb 26 2014 05:56pm

Quote (sebhehe @ Feb 26 2014 06:55pm)

Those are not unique embbalmed numbers tho, are they?

I get the same numbers for regular monsters ^^

Embalmed - mummy3 (H) Ancient Tunnels 1:499617

If I could kill as fast with 1500 (which is an impossible number btw) I'd go with it.

Going over the 400-500-600 is usually not worth it, because of that.

Yea first time I used that particular calc. Looking at different mediums can be misleading , especially line charts.

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Feb 26 2014 09:49pm

Quote (Alone @ Feb 26 2014 11:37pm)

is there any TL;DR version of this argument between Seb and Jomblified?

jomblified claims you get less uniques as you get more MF, which is not true. seb says you get more uniques and the returns diminish. for example if you go from 0 to 100 mf, you will see X% more uniques, but the same investment at 1000 mf (1000 to 1100) will grant an additional Y% uniques, with Y < X. so you get less for what you put in.

to recap, the game rolls the item when a monster dies. it rolls the base first from a distribution of treasure classes. once it picks an item from a bin, it will basically do a tournament selection in the order: uniques, sets, magic items, white items (superior, normal, low quality) and i think socketed is in there somewhere at the end.

mathematically, the is NO cap on MF. go to hero editor and make a hero with 10k MF. you will get uniques every 5 second. but for legit players, the only constraint is equipment, and there is a trade between MF and killing speed. e.g., dual crystal sword barb with 6 ist's per sword would have a huge MF but crap damage, and if you consider it as a function of time and items available, there is much greater benefit to kill faster with low MF than to kill slow with high MF.

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Feb 27 2014 06:34am

Quote (the_claw @ 27 Feb 2014 14:37)

durance of hate isn't a level 85 area, they won't count you that one mate

aight nvm then

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#288

Feb 27 2014 06:37am

durance of hate isn't a level 85 area, they won't count you that one mate

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Feb 27 2014 06:47am

Player: Alone
Character: Shemale
Target area: Pits, Ancient Tunnels, Chaos Sanctuary+Diablo
Current Score and items found: 19,2 / 5

Eschuta's Temper: 4.6
Immortal King's Stone Crusher: 1
Dracul's Grasp: 5.9
Frostwind: 4.6
Naj's Puzzler: 3.1

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#290

Feb 27 2014 09:32am

Just adding 3 items so I have all 10.
Now it is time to upgrade them

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Player: FantaExotic
Character: Sir
Target Area: Chaos Sanctuary
Top 10 item list and score: 82.5

Number of items: 10
Spirit Keeper: 14.2
Templar's Might: 10.7
Alma Negra: 9.1
Boneshade: 7.9
Head Hunter's Glory: 7.8
Wolfhowl: 7.3
Wolfhowl: 7.3
Soul Drainer: 6.6
Arachnid Mesh: 5.9
Medusa's Gaze: 5.7

Diablo run 312 (842 overall):

Diablo run 358 (888 overall):

Diablo run 364 (894 overall):
Even an upgrade! My old one had 95% ed

This post was edited by FantaExotic on Feb 27 2014 09:33am

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