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Feb 26 2014 10:55am
Quote (sebhehe @ Feb 26 2014 11:50am)
that's not what that shart says at all. more rares doesn't mean less uniqs.

the statement that 450 mf will decrease total uniq items found is wrong!


I'm not saying it is causing less uniques, I'm saying all of the chances will clash and the 3 others (magic, set, and rare) will happen more often because they require less magic find to drop.

Not saying what you are saying is wrong, but I have experimented intensely on the amount of magic find.
over 2 years worth on battle.net in p8 games.

This post was edited by D2Jomblified on Feb 26 2014 11:00am
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Feb 26 2014 11:03am
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I'm not saying it is causing less uniques, I'm saying all of the chances will clash and the 3 others (magic, set, and rare) will happen more often because they require less magic find to drop.


You are reading the chart wrong. It doesn't even meassure drops, it meassures effectice mf with mf.

But since we are blindly trusting charts made in paint with any other proof to support it... ;)

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Feb 26 2014 11:16am
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You are reading the chart wrong. It doesn't even meassure drops, it meassures effectice mf with mf.

But since we are blindly trusting charts made in paint with any other proof to support it... ;)

http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab356/sebhehe/Diablo3/d2jomb.png


I snagged the wrong chart from my phone lol, lemme find the one I'm talking about.

And after all of my support of you and always having your back, the disrespect you're showing towards me is kind of aggravating and a little upsetting.
Not once did I insult you...and here you are...resorting to that...I thought you were better than that Seb...lol...
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Feb 26 2014 11:30am
Quote (D2Jomblified @ Feb 26 2014 06:16pm)
I snagged the wrong chart from my phone lol, lemme find the one I'm talking about.

And after all of my support of you and always having your back, the disrespect you're showing towards me is kind of aggravating and a little upsetting.
Not once did I insult you...and here you are...resorting to that...I thought you were better than that Seb...lol...


If you didn't get it, it was a joke. I though my winking smiley face cleared that up! :D

The thing is you are missunderstanding. The game doesn't "load" items that way. The base item is chosen, then it checks from Uniq down to White items. More mf wont decrease the amount of uniqs you find, it could however make your character weak enough that the total amount of uniqs dropped over time decreases compared to a faster killing character with less mf.

Bosses also work differently and there's diminishing returns with mf which is exactly what that chart says! :)
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Feb 26 2014 11:32am
Quote (sebhehe @ Feb 26 2014 12:30pm)
If you didn't get it, it was a joke. I though my winking smiley face cleared that up! :D

The thing is you are missunderstanding. The game doesn't "load" items that way. The base item is chosen, then it checks from Uniq down to White items. More mf wont decrease the amount of uniqs you find, it could however make your character weak enough that the total amount of uniqs dropped over time decreases compared to a faster killing character with less mf.

Bosses also work differently and there's diminishing returns with mf which is exactly what that chart says! :)


Ok, found what i was saying.
This was the chart i was looking for, found it in my 5th period, went ahead and did some math.
The math i did was just to find the chance to find rares/sets/uniques, since magic find is obvious

and i didnt cath the winky face lol, was reading quickly before my teacher saw my phone haha



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Feb 26 2014 11:36am
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Ok, found what i was saying.
This was the chart i was looking for, found it in my 5th period, went ahead and did some math.
The math i did was just to find the chance to find rares/sets/uniques, since magic find is obvious

http://i60.tinypic.com/16avbwj.png


By that you mean with 688 mf 76% of every drop is a rare or set? Or...? What does it apply to? Bosses, super uniques, uniques? Normal monsters?

Where does it say uniq items become less frequent? :)

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Feb 26 2014 11:40am
Quote (sebhehe @ Feb 26 2014 12:36pm)
By that you mean with 688 mf 76% of every drop is a rare or set? Or...? What does it apply to? Bosses, super uniques, uniques? Normal monsters?

Where does it say uniq items become less frequent? :)


Each calculator has a 1% increase of rares/sets dropping
which makes the %chance of a unique drop by 1% with every 100 magic find.
this is for all monsters except bosses (I think)
and no, with 688 mf, the chances of a rare/set to drop is 76%, and only a 24% chance of a unique to drop.

I'm done spamming, sorry for all of this in your thread Seb.

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Feb 26 2014 11:58am
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Each calculator has a 1% increase of rares/sets dropping
which makes the %chance of a unique drop by 1% with every 100 magic find.
this is for all monsters except bosses (I think)
and no, with 688 mf, the chances of a rare/set to drop is 76%, and only a 24% chance of a unique to drop.

I'm done spamming, sorry for all of this in your thread Seb.


It's relevant to the thread so don't worry. And where does this decline start? At what mf? It's not right, you are forgetting normal magic items aswell. It doesn't take anything away from uniq drops :)
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Feb 26 2014 12:21pm
Nice drops everyone ! :)
Will try to open score too soon. My Bonemancer don't really wanna find anything uniq at the moment. :D
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Feb 26 2014 12:28pm
Quote (sebhehe @ Feb 26 2014 11:03am)
You are reading the chart wrong. It doesn't even meassure drops, it meassures effectice mf with mf.

But since we are blindly trusting charts made in paint with any other proof to support it... ;)

http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab356/sebhehe/Diablo3/d2jomb.png


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