Quote (Orvar @ 28 Nov 2011 15:23)
gj m8

Thought this was hell though

Im in hell act1 now, about to head down to andariel

Quote (DManZ @ 28 Nov 2011 16:18)
Thanks for the updates SpaZ!
I'm still ISO opinions on what to do w/ my second Lem - up my eth Shaftstop, up Duriels, or make treachery? My biggest prob right now is that merc dies FAST when cursed. Will more defense help when cursed, or does it matter?
Well eth shaftstop is really godly.. Do you have treachery for yourself already? Perhaps u can upg shaft, put treachery on him, and then turn back shaft when he's got fade active?
Defense only help to avoid getting hit, so in a word, it does help against curse as less hits means less damage
Quote (DManZ @ 28 Nov 2011 08:24)
I'm still on A1 Hell myself, as I've been spending most of my time IRL. Otherwise I'm running countess looking for some Ums and Fals:
http://i42.tinypic.com/nfocwo.jpg
Woot! A Fal! but WTF can I do w/ a Mal?
Sweet!!! Another Lem FINALLY! But an IST? CRAP! I need UMs!!!
http://i40.tinypic.com/efwup.jpg
Now I have a big choice and I need advice for my merc. I need to decide: Upped eth shaftstop, Upped duriels shell (non-eth), or treachery in 507 def armor I have currently (or wait for a better one.. I found eth dusk shroud but cubed 4 sockets

).
eth SS: ~2200 def, DR 30%, no resists
upped duriels: lots of resists, cannot be frozen, ~1600 - 1500 def (Forgot exact #... I did the calc earlier and didn't write it down. Oh well)
treachery: IAS galore, massive resists, no CBF, low def
Here is his gear and some random other finds and updates:
http://i40.tinypic.com/scezc6.jpg
I think I'm gonna UP the Duriel's.. CBF is huge, and I could also use it on my toon if I wanted to ditch the ravenfrost for MF runs. HORK!
But.. ISO opinions... This is only the second frigging lem I found despite the other crazy drops.
For running countess I've been equipping Sanders Riprap, a 30 FRW Prismatic circlet, and an amulet w/ teleport charges in case I get blocked or surrounded. I also have a great map. When I get to L5, or door to it, I TP back and swap in MF helm, boots and amulet. Works wonders!
Nice drops... 2 mal make an ist you know so mal is good even if u cannot use it. Ist is just gg... Might run countess some aswell, but isnt she hard on p8 for ya? I recon we have somewhat similar/equal gear on atm...
Congratz on the raven btw

Quote (Hoaryhag @ 28 Nov 2011 12:00)
I have made throw barbs in the past and they are probably my all time favorite character. I can tell you right now that hell is gonna be exactly that. A throw barb is powerful in norm and nightmare but once you get to hell you are gonna have major problems damage wise, and you better stay well away from any boss with LE FE or LE fanat might, or any dolls, etc. Let your merc take em and throw from a large distance. I've been done in a couple times by these bosses when I played a HC throw barb, which was probably in 1.10 lol. The explosion dmg may be scaled down now but it will still rape you and hitting them during stun lock, fhr lock will still cause it as well. Don't get lax, that's when they will get you. I've been killed by such Extra Fast Might LE FE Devilkin bosses in Tower Act1. Also Underground Passage can be dangerous. Stay away from Unique Dolls like the plague. No block = 100% they fuck you up. Watch out for Flayer Dungeon for sure and stay out of Swampy Pit. Use your range to your advantage, that's what puts throw above frenzy defense wise.
Now as far as weapons the best way to get non eth is to shop vendors. It's very tedious and could take awhile, but that's how it goes. If you aren't allowing yourself to shop vendors you are in for a tough time, unless you get some great luck mfing. Fara is the first vendor you can shop elite weps from. She sells WingedAxe, WingedKnife, and GhostGlaive. Anya and Malah are best to shop from but can't get there without the weps, makes a conundrum. I doubt players 8 will be an option in hell without an elite cruel, maybe not even then. Been awhile since I have played a throw barb even though they were my fav char, and there is a reason you don't see many around. The damage is just way scaled back in hell and you have to wait on eth replenish to repair. If you don't wanna wait, put points in frenzy and frenzy with em while they repair. You may never find an eth elite replenish so just try to make do and make it to Fara for an elite cruel or hope you get lucky and find a good unique.
I'll be tracking and rooting for ya. May start one myself, I'm tiring of the same ol and about to quit battle.net for the umpteenth time. GL you two.

Hello, first, thanks for a great post with alot of useful bits

Glad I got ur support^^
Luckily I have pretty much experience from hardcore play, on realm and off-realm. Not super mega, but enough. I know that on hardcore, whenever you feel safe, that is when you are not. It's the tiniest bit of relaxation that get you killed. Still I cant help myself from playing when drunk/stoned sometimes, it's a lot of fun then so why not

If I die I can handle it just have another go.
I am only in act1, soon at andy, but yeah I will be alot more careful about the FE and the body popping in the other acts. Act1 has its share of deadly mobs aswell ofcourse... so far so good though.
I do play with player 8 settings, and it's slow, but I am allowed to re-run and I am allowed to shop vendors. I'm running around with one pair of rare javs and one pair of cruel harpoons atm, I realise my best shot is to gamble/vendor a pair of cruel elite javas/throwing, Or have a lot of luck mfing...
And yes, even with repair mod, ethereal will be kinda meh since i throw way faster than they repair, even the uniques with 1 in every 4 seconds I guess. I already have frenzy though for finishing off some mob/packs before I run to town and repair, so that might be what ill do with eth repair IF I find aswell.
This post was edited by SpAz. on Nov 28 2011 09:56am