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Nov 28 2011 05:46am
Wave four was so easy with my max fr that I was confident enough to tank the bunch, never lost more than 1/3 of life


Wave five then... Was pretty anxious about these fuckers. But really, I used the same pull 1-2 per time as in normal, and suprisingly enough they where less hard in nightmare than in normal. I dont know if my gear improved that much, or if they just aren't much better than in Norm.


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so... Baal is always a pleasure with untwinked character solo on /player 8, LOL

Baal


Fake baal - do you spot the differense?



So finally, without any problems except for gold drain................... drops:
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Nov 28 2011 06:39am
GL Sir!
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Nov 28 2011 07:23am
gj m8 :)

Thought this was hell though :o
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Nov 28 2011 08:18am
Thanks for the updates SpaZ!

I'm still ISO opinions on what to do w/ my second Lem - up my eth Shaftstop, up Duriels, or make treachery? My biggest prob right now is that merc dies FAST when cursed. Will more defense help when cursed, or does it matter?
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Quote (Orvar @ 28 Nov 2011 15:23)
gj m8 :)

Thought this was hell though :o


Im in hell act1 now, about to head down to andariel :)
Quote (DManZ @ 28 Nov 2011 16:18)
Thanks for the updates SpaZ!

I'm still ISO opinions on what to do w/ my second Lem - up my eth Shaftstop, up Duriels, or make treachery? My biggest prob right now is that merc dies FAST when cursed. Will more defense help when cursed, or does it matter?


Well eth shaftstop is really godly.. Do you have treachery for yourself already? Perhaps u can upg shaft, put treachery on him, and then turn back shaft when he's got fade active?
Defense only help to avoid getting hit, so in a word, it does help against curse as less hits means less damage


Quote (DManZ @ 28 Nov 2011 08:24)
I'm still on A1 Hell myself, as I've been spending most of my time IRL. Otherwise I'm running countess looking for some Ums and Fals:


http://i42.tinypic.com/nfocwo.jpg
Woot! A Fal! but WTF can I do w/ a Mal?  :fume:

Sweet!!! Another Lem FINALLY! But an IST? CRAP! I need UMs!!!
http://i40.tinypic.com/efwup.jpg

Now I have a big choice and I need advice for my merc. I need to decide: Upped eth shaftstop, Upped duriels shell (non-eth), or treachery in 507 def armor I have currently (or wait for a better one.. I found eth dusk shroud but cubed 4 sockets :( ).
eth SS: ~2200 def, DR 30%, no resists
upped duriels: lots of resists, cannot be frozen, ~1600 - 1500 def (Forgot exact #... I did the calc earlier and didn't write it down. Oh well)
treachery: IAS galore, massive resists, no CBF, low def

Here is his gear and some random other finds and updates:
http://i40.tinypic.com/scezc6.jpg


I think I'm gonna UP the Duriel's.. CBF is huge, and I could also use it on my toon if I wanted to ditch the ravenfrost for MF runs. HORK!

But.. ISO opinions... This is only the second frigging lem I found despite the other crazy drops.

For running countess I've been equipping Sanders Riprap, a 30 FRW Prismatic circlet, and an amulet w/ teleport charges in case I get blocked or surrounded. I also have a great map. When I get to L5, or door to it, I TP back and swap in MF helm, boots and amulet.  Works wonders!


Nice drops... 2 mal make an ist you know so mal is good even if u cannot use it. Ist is just gg... Might run countess some aswell, but isnt she hard on p8 for ya? I recon we have somewhat similar/equal gear on atm...

Congratz on the raven btw :drool:



Quote (Hoaryhag @ 28 Nov 2011 12:00)
I have made throw barbs in the past and they are probably my all time favorite character.  I can tell you right now that hell is gonna be exactly that.  A throw barb is powerful in norm and nightmare but once you get to hell you are gonna have major problems damage wise, and you better stay well away from any boss with LE FE or LE fanat might, or any dolls, etc.  Let your merc take em and throw from a large distance.  I've been done in a couple times by these bosses when I played a HC throw barb, which was probably in 1.10 lol.  The explosion dmg may be scaled down now but it will still rape you and hitting them during stun lock, fhr lock will still cause it as well.  Don't get lax, that's when they will get you.  I've been killed by such Extra Fast Might LE FE Devilkin bosses in Tower Act1.  Also Underground Passage can be dangerous.  Stay away from Unique Dolls like the plague.  No block = 100% they fuck you up.  Watch out for Flayer Dungeon for sure and stay out of Swampy Pit.  Use your range to your advantage, that's what puts throw above frenzy defense wise.

Now as far as weapons the best way to get non eth is to shop vendors.  It's very tedious and could take awhile, but that's how it goes.  If you aren't allowing yourself to shop vendors you are in for a tough time, unless you get some great luck mfing.  Fara is the first vendor you can shop elite weps from.  She sells WingedAxe, WingedKnife, and GhostGlaive.  Anya and Malah are best to shop from but can't get there without the weps, makes a conundrum.  I doubt players 8 will be an option in hell without an elite cruel, maybe not even then.  Been awhile since I have played a throw barb even though they were my fav char,  and there is a reason you don't see many around.  The damage is just way scaled back in hell and you have to wait on eth replenish to repair.  If you don't wanna wait, put points in frenzy and frenzy with em while they repair. You may never find an eth elite replenish so just try to make do and make it to Fara for an elite cruel or hope you get lucky and find a good unique.

I'll be tracking and rooting for ya.  May start one myself, I'm tiring of the same ol and about to quit battle.net for the umpteenth time.  GL you two. B)



Hello, first, thanks for a great post with alot of useful bits :) Glad I got ur support^^

Luckily I have pretty much experience from hardcore play, on realm and off-realm. Not super mega, but enough. I know that on hardcore, whenever you feel safe, that is when you are not. It's the tiniest bit of relaxation that get you killed. Still I cant help myself from playing when drunk/stoned sometimes, it's a lot of fun then so why not ;) If I die I can handle it just have another go.
I am only in act1, soon at andy, but yeah I will be alot more careful about the FE and the body popping in the other acts. Act1 has its share of deadly mobs aswell ofcourse... so far so good though.

I do play with player 8 settings, and it's slow, but I am allowed to re-run and I am allowed to shop vendors. I'm running around with one pair of rare javs and one pair of cruel harpoons atm, I realise my best shot is to gamble/vendor a pair of cruel elite javas/throwing, Or have a lot of luck mfing...
And yes, even with repair mod, ethereal will be kinda meh since i throw way faster than they repair, even the uniques with 1 in every 4 seconds I guess. I already have frenzy though for finishing off some mob/packs before I run to town and repair, so that might be what ill do with eth repair IF I find aswell.

This post was edited by SpAz. on Nov 28 2011 09:56am
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Nov 28 2011 10:02am
Diablo & his brother never sleeps, Let's kill them in HELL too!






My char stats when starting hell



First unique I met, they really didnt feel like giving me a smooth start eh
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Nov 28 2011 10:06am
Since this quest, I have some better gear like the cruel harpoons. But at this point, each zombie took forever. Damn they have high physical res...
Finally, corpsefire did go down however!



Found bishibosh close to the CP waypoint aswell, so I took the shot at mfing some times. He's easy and pretty high lvl so I hoped for some guudies. None found but got me some gold!



Had finally achieved another ruby... this was the time I had a good feeling...



YESSS!!! such a pretty pair... not a wasted stat even if I wish that the FR was higher and that 5%ar was smtn else^^
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Quote (SpAz. @ Nov 28 2011 05:06pm)
Since this quest, I have some better gear like the cruel harpoons. But at this point, each zombie took forever. Damn they have high physical res...
Finally, corpsefire did go down however!
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/Spazy_/hardcore%20walkthrough/Screenshot1035.jpg


Found bishibosh close to the CP waypoint aswell, so I took the shot at mfing some times. He's easy and pretty high lvl so I hoped for some guudies. None found but got me some gold!
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/Spazy_/hardcore%20walkthrough/Screenshot1040.jpg


Had finally achieved another ruby... this was the time I had a good feeling...
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/Spazy_/hardcore%20walkthrough/Screenshot1047.jpg


YESSS!!! such a pretty pair... not a wasted stat even if I wish that the FR was higher and that 5%ar was smtn else^^


isnt AR kinda needed on a throwing barb? never made on myself, but imo it looks like an useful add
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Nov 28 2011 10:11am
Blood raven was bloody painful (pun intended). Man that bitch has some hitpoints


worked her up some with leaping, since fighting her with zombies all around makes what is already a pain, alot more painful...




But ofcourse she slipped away. Luckily at low hp so I finished her off in her own graveyard


Quote (Orvar @ 28 Nov 2011 18:11)
isnt AR kinda needed on a throwing barb? never made on myself, but imo it looks like an useful add

Sure mate it is, but thing is most of my attackrating is already based on +% attackrating. and 5% is like (guessing here) 15-30 hard points AR to me I guess

This post was edited by SpAz. on Nov 28 2011 10:12am
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