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Jan 25 2011 12:26pm
Quote (Infamous_WuBird @ 25 Jan 2011 18:16)
that doesnt look cheap, but its ideal

if it was me, i would just make a hammerdin, and have Last Wish in stash to do ubers.


thats nowhere near ideal for uber smiter.

Lw works for hdin who wants to make ubers occasionally, but for pure uber smiter its crap.
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Jan 25 2011 12:30pm
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thats nowhere near ideal for uber smiter.

Lw works for hdin who wants to make ubers occasionally, but for pure uber smiter its crap.


i disagree

ideal paladin for ubers is zealot with 1pt smite

LW>>>Grief there.

LW allows you better gear options for survival than grief, need much less CB items too

inb4 this is about "pure damage speculation"
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Quote (Infamous_WuBird @ Jan 25 2011 09:30pm)
i disagree

ideal paladin for ubers is zealot with 1pt smite

LW>>>Grief there.

LW allows you better gear options for survival than grief, need much less CB items too

inb4 this is about "pure damage speculation"


Would like to hear your "Better gear options for survival".
Also would like to know what's wrong with LT at 6 FPA Smite and +250-270% resistance stacking as sufficient survival factors?

And no, 1 point Smite Zealer is not faster than a Smiter.
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Jan 25 2011 03:20pm
for getting organ sets and ubers it is
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Jan 25 2011 03:21pm
Quote (Infamous_WuBird @ Jan 25 2011 04:20pm)
for getting organ sets and ubers it is


I would just stop now...
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Quote (Infamous_WuBird @ Jan 26 2011 12:20am)
for getting organ sets and ubers it is


Still did not get your "Better" equipment setup.
Please, elaborate. I'm intrigued.
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Jan 25 2011 03:43pm
Quote (Synonym @ Jan 25 2011 09:22pm)
Still did not get your "Better" equipment setup.
Please, elaborate. I'm intrigued.


grief uber smiter setup would have what

Guillaumes
fort or duress
griefpb
hoz(um)
verdungo
maras
bkring + raven
dracs
gores/goblin toe
anni

1pt smite build

CoA(ber ber)
fortitude
LWpb(leet)
eExile vortex shield 1811 def 45 resist all(style)
verdungo
metal grid(style GG resist/def)
tri resist boots
laying of hands
bk ring + raven
anni

max resist even with Meph conviction, less than 15% chance of getting hit, kills ubers within 1 minute, organ runs within 2 minutes

pinnacle torch farmer.

when i was still trading on jsp i think i farmed atleast 30-40 torches without a single close call, no aura changing needed, no tactics, charge in, kill all 3 at once

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Jan 25 2011 04:00pm
My zealer ubers with 1 hard point in smite, "dont remember how many total". I do it with Sanctuary in a troll nest for a shield and Guiliume helm with a perfecte Sacarens chance ammy. Thought I would mention those two because no one ever seems to use them. One thing I do use and wouldnt think of using anything else and that's Grief phase blade.
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Jan 26 2011 02:34am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 25 Jan 2011 16:59)
BEST AND CHEAPEST SETUP

1 x Shako with a 15 Ias Jewel
1 x High CB LW
1 x 30 Resist all Maras
1 x Nigma
1 x Hoz Cham'ed
1 x Spiders
1 x 5 LL BK
1 x 10 Fcr / Str / Life / Lightning Resist Ring
1 x War Travs
1 x Mage Fist

Switch Cta and 35 Fcr Spirit Sacred Targe

1 x High Resist Torch
1 x High Resist Anni
a Few P Combats or Gheeds plus 8 x Lightning Resist Small Charms with MF

All done

Fail more please ^_^
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Jan 26 2011 06:36am
Quote (Infamous_WuBird @ Jan 26 2011 12:43am)
grief uber smiter setup would have what

Guillaumes
fort or duress
griefpb
hoz(um)
verdungo
maras
bkring + raven
dracs
gores/goblin toe
anni

1pt smite build

CoA(ber ber)
fortitude
LWpb(leet)
eExile vortex shield 1811 def 45 resist all(style)
verdungo
metal grid(style GG resist/def)
tri resist boots
laying of hands
bk ring + raven
anni

max resist even with Meph conviction, less than 15% chance of getting hit, kills ubers within 1 minute, organ runs within 2 minutes

pinnacle torch farmer.

when i was still trading on jsp i think i farmed atleast 30-40 torches without a single close call, no aura changing needed, no tactics, charge in, kill all 3 at once


Alright, so your setup costs 100 times more than mine, and yet kills the Ubers at twice the time (~32 seconds vs 1 minute).
By the way, %DtD does not affect the Ubers via Smite. It doesn't affect them at all, as a matter of fact (As a relation to your choice of LoH gloves).

I also fail to see where you think my setup is in any way not safe. In fact it's safer than yours. While you charge away and smite without preemptive LT, you risk (If only by a negligent chance percentage) not having LT for the next X-XX Smite sequences, and thus have less survivability than my own technique.

What's more, I can easily stack resistances via sockets, Fade and inventory. I can reach a near 300% duo-resistance with as little as 8-9% single resistance small charms (Not even all-resistance charms. These charms cost near 1 FG per 10*SC stack), Treachery prebuff, and my own gear.

So I dare ask again, how is your build in any way more effective than mine, both in cost and in killspeed? If you're so worried about traveling to the mini-ubers, which is not even the topic's agenda, have an Enigma in your stash.

This post was edited by Synonym on Jan 26 2011 06:43am
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