what

The topic is about full UT smiters, not other characters.
In that case, I would indeed prefer LW for the sake of convenience.

buhhaaahahahaaa

Last wish is for pvm....Grief is for pvp....End of that story..

Yes, lw is for your pvp smiter if you want to kill ubers every once in a while. Grief or atreons for pure uber smiter tho.

i think a better thread would be Astreons vs Grief for pure damage

as far as overall viability and worth its not close, LW by miles

Have made a comparison about it here.

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If it is only for PVM ...... Anything goes

No need to make Smiter

Just put 1 point into fanaticism on your Hammerdin

You hit Max Smite FPA with this set u p

You can switch tele with your CTA and 35 FCR Pally Spirit to all the mini bosses @ 75 FCR Tele Speed

You have switch Hammer damage of 11 K

And you can switch Smite, still does Ubers below 1 min and 30 Seconds

When Life tap procs you never die

and its dumb to think pvmers wouldn't bother potting Juvies if they need to, Not like Uber Baal and Diablo is going to post on Jsp and call you a BM Potting cunt

What more do you need



BEST AND CHEAPEST SETUP

1 x Shako with a 15 Ias Jewel
1 x High CB LW
1 x 30 Resist all Maras
1 x Nigma
1 x Hoz Cham'ed
1 x Spiders
1 x 5 LL BK
1 x 10 Fcr / Str / Life / Lightning Resist Ring
1 x War Travs
1 x Mage Fist

Switch Cta and 35 Fcr Spirit Sacred Targe

1 x High Resist Torch
1 x High Resist Anni
a Few P Combats or Gheeds plus 8 x Lightning Resist Small Charms with MF

All done

that doesnt look cheap, but its ideal

if it was me, i would just make a hammerdin, and have Last Wish in stash to do ubers.