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Oct 22 2021 07:45pm
Quote (Cleav3r @ Oct 22 2021 09:39pm)
How do I know lol maybe due to game running in different frames (OG D2 runs in 25fps, and D2R runs in 60fps)
Not just PB grief, dual claw sins can do probably 7f trap laying speed when using BOS compared to 9f in OG D2


i have bad news for your theory bro. the same engine is running underneath so all the breakpoints are identical. nice thought tho
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Oct 22 2021 07:48pm
i bet we're also using the wrong monitors when we pvp...
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Quote (noghri @ Oct 22 2021 09:48pm)
i bet we're also using the wrong monitors when we pvp...


need at least 240hz
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Oct 22 2021 07:53pm
this thread have some inaccurate info..
the overbasic info i can do:
grief pb for pvm
grief ba for pvp

some testers rn is claming some wierd breakpoints when paired with fana aura
like laying traps / smite fpa but we don't have some real data/vids (afaik) about this..
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Oct 22 2021 08:08pm
Quote (ThoroBR @ Oct 23 2021 12:53pm)
this thread have some inaccurate info..
the overbasic info i can do:
grief pb for pvm
grief ba for pvp

some testers rn is claming some wierd breakpoints when paired with fana aura
like laying traps / smite fpa but we don't have some real data/vids (afaik) about this..


I have tested both smite and laying traps, but I'm just too lazy making and uploading videos, you can test it yourself
get a PB and BA and soc them with 2 shaels, put on any cheap 20ias stuff like cats eye etc, open your fana and see the result yourself
for traps, even easier, just get two GTs from Anya and use BOS
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Oct 22 2021 08:09pm
there hasn't been any evidence that breakpoints are different. if you can show a video or some type of evidence then sure, but the game engine is the same as it was before, just with new graphics on top
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Oct 22 2021 08:10pm
Quote (Pushxx @ Oct 23 2021 12:45pm)
i have bad news for your theory bro. the same engine is running underneath so all the breakpoints are identical. nice thought tho


Blizzard claimed this but you can test it yourself (I have done it)
get a PB and BA and soc them with 2 shaels, put on any cheap 20ias stuff like cats eye etc, open your fana and see the result yourself
Also firewall does 2.4x damage compared to OG D2 so it's not the same engine
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Quote (Pushxx @ Oct 22 2021 11:09pm)
there hasn't been any evidence that breakpoints are different. if you can show a video or some type of evidence then sure, but the game engine is the same as it was before, just with new graphics on top


^ this
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Oct 22 2021 08:14pm
Quote (Pushxx @ Oct 22 2021 10:09pm)
the game engine is the same as it was before, just with new graphics on top


Where is my ebug
Where are my holy shield scepters
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Oct 22 2021 08:16pm
i dont play a smiter, but the break points & fps all feel the same for me.
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