Hey ppl, first, what i intend here is just share the knowledge of some really cool guys who helped me understand some math around ias% breakpoints of smiter and sins, i won't claim i know all, i won't claim found first anything, just share what i gathered with others along the last days, surely we have people much more attuned with this ias% uncapped since beta (i didn't participate there) well all disclaimers done i hope we can follow without haters or spammers here, keep clean to help me and others to find what is viable and what is bullcrap.. ty guys!

Special thanks for:
Ger87 this guy had all the patient of world with my silly questions about ias, frame pr direction and Eias.
Cleav3r who showed me the first good video about the uncapped breakpoints.
Goomshill another great video about what is unlimited cap ias% really fast.

Cleav3r video:
Goomshill video: https://i.imgur.com/EtQe2f3.mp4

Here you can see two things clearly, the fpa of smiter prolly is 5 fpa, d2lod capped smite frames at 6. The second conclusion is not a visual glitch because the laying traps indeed spawning faster than the old limit of 9 fpa laying hands.

lets calc: with a ) i find the Eias, with b ) i find the Ias% needed to achieve the breakpoint
a ) Frames = {WeaponBase / [1+(EIAS / 100)]} - 1
b ) (120*(EIAS - Skill Ias + WSM)) / (120 - (EIAS - SkillIAS +WSM)

Frames per action of smite = 12
a ) Frames = 12/(1+(EIAS/100))-1 (to find the Eias of 5 and 4 fpa)

Breakpoints:
Fpa_____Eias
08______34
07______50
06______72 the old max limit of 6 fpa for smite skill
05______101 New
04______141 New

*you can calc 3, 2 and 1 fpa, but too high to be practical..

First example: Phase Blade (-30 wsm) + 37 Skill ias (provided by fana aura lv27+)

b.1 ) (120*(101 - 37 + -30)) / (120 - (101 - 37 + -30) = 47,441860465... = 48% ias needed to achieve 5 fpa with PB (like grief) + fana aura lvl 27
b.2 ) (120*(141 - 37 + -30)) / (120 - (141 - 37 + -30) = 193,04347826... = 194% ias needed to achieve 4 fpa with PB (like grief) + fana aura lvl 27

Second example: Berzerk Axe ( 0 wsm ) + 37 Skill ias (provided by fana aura lv27+)

b.3 ) (120*(101 - 37 + -0)) / (120 - (101 - 37 + -0) = 137,14285714... = 138% ias needed to achieve 5 fpa with BA (like grief) + fana aura lvl 27
b.4 ) (120*(141 - 37 + -0)) / (120 - (141 - 37 + -0) = 780,00000000... = 780% ias needed to achieve 4 fpa with BA (like grief) + fana aura lvl 27

*useful threads about the discussion: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=88218573&f=148 https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=88216267&f=87 https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=88731105&f=148
*sin i'll spend much more time because i'm still learning the kick calcs..
but for smiter here we have, think if is useful for any real application!
*if anyone can help checking if any calc is wrong i will appreciate, ty guys

This post was edited by ThoroBR on Nov 2 2021 07:54pm

So were you right? Does IAS on the weapon still not increase FPA??

as i said, nope, like d2lod the ias% of weapon is local to the weapon it self, so with smite you don't use the weapon to deal dmg with smite skill

But the guy in the video put 2 Shael runes in his weapon?

i found what is missing to know this, my memory betrayed me a bit, grief pb ias is 'useless' for the old cap of 6 fpa, bcuz had enough ias to get 6 fpa (only 6%ias) the guides use highlords because of decrepify aura..
you still don't 'need' the ias of grief if you put highlords (total 30%ias of grief + 20%ias highlords = 50%, but you only need 48%)

same conclusion different routes ^



This post was edited by ThoroBR on Nov 2 2021 08:06pm

Yeah I just did the testings myself:



Will get 4k quality at some point.

This post was edited by Roneye on Nov 2 2021 08:16pm

Just chiming in to let you know there's more going on than simply the removal of fpa bp's.
Actually tested some stuff on Assassin and the EIAS calculation (required IAS) is not entierly accurate.

It's obvious this is broken and not intended, so I would think twice b4 investing alot to make use of it right now.

This post was edited by B1shibosh on Nov 2 2021 08:13pm

thx Ron! yeah, i corrected myself, betrayed by a old memory, you're right mate! i will use the example of lowest grief pb: 30%+ any 20% (such highlords) will give this 5 fpa, thats will ppl reported so early the smiter issues



yup, i did some calcs with eias for sin she can hit much better the ias% bp than others, but this post i want just show smiter, and i hope some ppl try test more the new bps too

edit: if you can test a 15%ias jewel in a rando pb vs 20%ias shael would be great too to proove/disproove the calcs!

This post was edited by ThoroBR on Nov 2 2021 08:16pm

I can confirm there is a FPA BP between 40 and 60 smiter/fana

Hold on buying some ias jewels to test more

This post was edited by Roneye on Nov 2 2021 08:26pm