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Nov 17 2014 09:26pm
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If ur gonna make divisions might as well make hybrid divisions. I would love to see a sin vs sin all class ladder tbh. 1 piece light sorb gm. ^_^;

more on topic tho, splitting everything up into divisions seems kinda silly tho, the benefit of 102 is that you can mb fuck a 42 fcr ghost that depends on ww dmg. when you make 65 vs 102 and split the 42s from 102 it takes out the element of versatility & being able to out rock-paper-scissors your opponent. Yea I think 65 probably has the best advantage vs all, but there are definitely weaknesses to each of the 42/65/102 builds that can be capitalized upon by the others. This is what makes a class vs class ladder VERY interesting imo.

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If ur gonna make divisions might as well make hybrid divisions.  I would love to see a sin vs sin all class ladder tbh.  1 piece light sorb gm.  ^_^;

more on topic tho, splitting everything up into divisions seems kinda silly tho, the benefit of 102 is that you can mb fuck a 42 fcr ghost that depends on ww dmg.  when you make 65 vs 102 and split the 42s from 102 it takes out the element of versatility & being able to out rock-paper-scissors your opponent.  Yea I think 65 probably has the best advantage vs all, but there are definitely weaknesses to each of the tel:tel:tel:42/65/102 builds that can be capitalized upon by the others.  This is what makes a class vs class ladder VERY interesting imo.



I already tried this a few years back. The 65fcr hybrid triumps 102 trappers and ghosts without breaking a sweat. But then as we know, 65 fcr hybrids suck in overall pvp due to the slower mb and weaker ww damage.

And I do agree that between 42, 65, 102; The 65 is best overall (and assuming everyone is equally skilled, would be like Rock Paper Scissors). We do have an anything goes ww sin ladder (no hybrids or trapper) though

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I already tried this a few years back. The 65fcr hybrid triumps 102 trappers and ghosts without breaking a sweat. But then as we know, 65 fcr hybrids suck in overall pvp due to the slower mb and weaker ww damage.

And I do agree that between 42, 65, 102; The 65 is best overall (and assuming everyone is equally skilled, would be like Rock Paper Scissors). We do have an anything goes ww sin ladder (no hybrids or trapper) though


They suck in overall PvP? Lel news to me I can take on a team 1v4
And IMO on ghost 42 is best, arach too passive of a belt.

As for hybrid ladder, I like that
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They suck in overall PvP? Lel news to me I can take on a team 1v4
And IMO on ghost 42 is best, arach too passive of a belt.

As for hybrid ladder, I like that


I dont think arguing vs you or proving you wrong is really worth my time. So I'll reply once and keep it Long story short:
1) You won't kill top notch necros on a hybrid because you will need either 1) max mindblast (play like a ghost) or 2) 102fcr (play like a trapper). This will be forever you biggest threat just as barb is for ghost.
2) Hybrid isnt allowed wisp or Lo in most ladder, and with that ruleset, they will lose to 102fcr trappers as well.

Those 2 are basically the most annoying opponents and coincidentally the most commonly used chars for "pride" duels. Hybrids are great pubbing chars, but can't hold their own vs a real prider. Ghosts are fun chars used for killing casters, trappers are better for "real" duels. Hybrids.... you dont really get the full effect of either.
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I dont think arguing vs you or proving you wrong is really worth my time. So I'll reply once and keep it Long story short:
1) You won't kill top notch necros on a hybrid because you will need either 1) max mindblast (play like a ghost) or 2) 102fcr (play like a trapper). This will be forever you biggest threat just as barb is for ghost.
2) Hybrid isnt allowed wisp or Lo in most ladder, and with that ruleset, they will lose to 102fcr trappers as well.

Those 2 are basically the most annoying opponents and coincidentally the most commonly used chars for "pride" duels. Hybrids are great pubbing chars, but can't hold their own vs a real prider. Ghosts are fun chars used for killing casters, trappers are better for "real" duels. Hybrids.... you dont really get the full effect of either.


I have yet to meet a necro who is much of a challenge to me. BoS + Opportunity + namelocking dragon claw or triwhirling skills stacked with a trap or 2 = immediate death.

wouldn't expect u to understand. ;o
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Nov 18 2014 09:44am
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I have yet to meet a necro who is much of a challenge to me. BoS + Opportunity + namelocking dragon claw or triwhirling skills stacked with a trap or 2 = immediate death.

wouldn't expect u to understand. ;o


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They suck in overall PvP? Lel news to me I can take on a team 1v4
And IMO on ghost 42 is best, arach too passive of a belt.

As for hybrid ladder, I like that


Agreed 42 is best.
I dunno about assassin vs assassin ladder but I'd like to c a hybrid vs hybrid division.

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