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Quote (Graceful @ Jan 24 2022 11:59am)
inferno is enough

vita sorcs wearing hotspurs can tank 10+ 20k fireballs and like 9 24k fireballs

this is with a very low chance of FHR as well

leads to long boring duels

we should use a slightly different ruleset for this SvS tour

promote offensive play imo



i don't think anyone has dueled yet ferdia



Yes I agree with this, I’m a esfb main but for this tournament I’ve thought about switching to vita purely for this reason.

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Quote (Graceful @ Jan 24 2022 02:59pm)
inferno is enough

vita sorcs wearing hotspurs can tank 10+ 20k fireballs and like 9 24k fireballs

this is with a very low chance of FHR as well

leads to long boring duels

we should use a slightly different ruleset for this SvS tour

promote offensive play imo



i don't think anyone has dueled yet ferdia


this



This post was edited by GoGators5454 on Jan 24 2022 02:09pm
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No worries. It's like hosting a dinner party without knowing how to host one xD

Been SvS since vanilla.

You said you want people to play at best while allowing hotspurs. This gives a clear advantage to Vita sorcs especially when es sorcs cant use spurs as well.

But, what do I know. Only been SvS for 15 years.

Again, you are correct though on the stand that rules are set, people signed up, can't change.


Here are some references if you want to properly host in the future.

Literally no flame at all or throwing shade.


https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=75884105

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=80293155&f=147

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=76097115&f=147&o=0

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+1 for inferno.

should use svs rule set, not D2GA
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I personally do not agree with Spurs on any Sorc. I think infernos are fine. I also do not have any problem with an es sorc or a vita sorc utilizing oak sage. Any opinions on Oak Sage for all? Just my two cents.
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Quote (GoGators5454 @ Jan 24 2022 12:22pm)
I personally do not agree with Spurs on any Sorc. I think infernos are fine. I also do not have any problem with an es sorc or a vita sorc utilizing oak sage. Any opinions on Oak Sage for all? Just my two cents.


Oak eats blizzards and somewhat block fbs which can be disadvantageous to some sorc vs sorc matchup.

Some tourney it's allowed some not.

Let's not stray too far from original rules as set by host.

I think spurs is a huge one though.

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The tournament is hosted by me for you the players. If you dont want hotspurs then I would suggest you get consences from the entrants before players complete a match.
Similar to the FT5 vs FT3 and the Server issue, I do not mind putting this to a vote, but the same principal applies, over 50% of the entrants need to agree to this change.

Therefore:

Players seeking 85% fire res max = 6 (lnacer, GoGators5454, Chad_Thundercock, soxfan24, Graceful, pelicanv) (i.e. you need 5 more players to agree to this)
Players yet to opine = 14.

I will pm all users with this question.

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mxracer89 / RJP#11103 / Aria

No hotspurs, let them fire balls eat
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Quote (Graceful @ Jan 24 2022 11:59am)
inferno is enough

vita sorcs wearing hotspurs can tank 10+ 20k fireballs and like 9 24k fireballs

this is with a very low chance of FHR as well

leads to long boring duels

we should use a slightly different ruleset for this SvS tour

promote offensive play imo



i don't think anyone has dueled yet ferdia


+1 more for infernos only no hotspurs.

coming from a vita blizz where its a beneficial rule for me spurs are too broken on sorcs. tanking 10+fbs aint it

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I'm good with either dropping spurs and really any +res or sorb for fire vs fire. I'm packing one of the best es sorcs built yet and I'm not even remotely thinking about running it @95 with current rules set if I don't just go pure vita period. Vita fbs have a disgusting advantage over es fbs naturally little less with spurs.

I really do think the disadvantage for es sorcs under this ruleset will ruin the integrity of this this competition. To win an svs under this set I need 5+ completely clean stomps while running for my life 90% of the time. More game with finding neutrality via lack of res than an even ability to sorb/stack. In my opinion a perfect sorc competition is one where no opponent can live through a completely clean stomp
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