Shield>60k+fg cruel claws

Use a fools vs. these np.

P.S. 102 da real OP/new era.

This post was edited by D0MAIN on Dec 18 2015 03:18pm

So that's a basically a yes. And of course I'm a yes as well.

Personally, I'm not the type to chicken shit out of fear in the in face of competition. When the 700 def vis hat build was introduced I was scared too but we all figured out how to counter it. Every build has a weakness that can be exploited. If we keep things too stoic, people will get bored and the ladder will perish.

Ps. A ghost has always been defined as a wwsin that uses enigma. There's never been a requirement that 2 claws must be used so with being said, shields have always been allowed; just no ones ever thought of this build until I did. Now after I figure out how to implement it successful people get scared and whine? Sad.

Still 3-2 in favor of banning it. Too much essay to pay attention to, but like I said use dual claws or gtfo.

Shields are wack. I'm saying nope.

im voting no as well if it wasnt already counted

Imagine 102 max block with ow LOL. Banned before I could ever test huehue.

I'm not whining man. Yes claw claw isn't stated in the rules also nigma as required armor isn't stated in the rules also. So let's go back to fort sins and bramble sins and shield sins and while we're at why not hybrids on the ladder.

I thought point of this ladder was gvg. So if u wanted to deviate from the rules and go in the so called gray area of it ...why not have the community vote on it like a normal person would.

And let's remember bro last time we dueled it was 5 to 1 man so if u need every little advantage to get 1 spot I'll give it to for free so u don't cry

Ladder doesn't mean life for me. I joined it for 1st time cause no 1 was on it. I was trying help my friend mike out and the ladder out. And shield sins have been out way before u thought of ur cookie cutter build. Case in point neonnoodle

i dont see anything in the rules about having to be c/c

There isnt.... This is the only ruleset...

"1] Chaos Claw must be used to compete on this ladder."

and to be honest, we've always allowed enigma/bramble/fort/etc... I see no difference between claw/claw or claw/shield. A wwsin is a ghost so long as it uses enigma. Whether you change the hat or ammy or gloves changes nothing. I see no reason why a changing 1 claw to a shield should. The only difference problem here is most likely fear of the unknown. "I dont know what will be in stored so lets ban it" logic.



I've been a huge advocate of fort/bramble so feel free to bring them back if you want, myself and many others will mb spam you to death. As for score, IIRC that was your first and only victory against me ever. Prior to that, I've always beat you in the past; including our duel for #1 spot before that. You beat me when I was lag spiking to death and couldnt do anything more than "trade ww" in a bvb fasion. Obviously your highlords/gores/cruel would beat a 65fcr fools build in pure ww trades. No need to start personal attacks here, you're not noni, you're better than that.

PS. Neonnoodle used pheonix and it didnt work out for him. He never understood how to optimize it so no one complained and other ghosts still dueled him just fine. I beat him countless times. Why is it now that I bring back a shield build and we have an outrage

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Dec 18 2015 05:11pm

but... if my vote is going to count. and due to some of the points brought up

i vote no because it may as well be bvb