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Mar 23 2011 07:06pm
Quote (BustaNut @ Mar 23 2011 07:54pm)
I apologize. I'm new to all of this. Am I able to challenge now?


You may. 1-2 spots above.
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Mar 23 2011 07:23pm
I would like to challenge 13. Poacher / beato / *beatos
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Mar 23 2011 07:38pm
Quote (BustaNut @ Mar 23 2011 07:54pm)
I apologize. I'm new to all of this. Am I able to challenge now?


13 n 14 are open for challenge, go ahead.

As for my opinion on rep. You gotta go one way or the other. You can't allow overly defensive play and such high rep.
Tho I think its not really necessary. I've had those sickeningly long battles. Stephan and I have had sooooooooo many long drawn out duels it gets severely taxing. I gotta dry the sweat off my hands from a dsingle duel. But neither of us duel overly defensive. I would never call him l8z. We just avoid each others atttacks so much that things just take a long time lol.
Keep rep. If you're gonna change something, do something about overly defensive play. There's running, there's running n shooting, there's hiding from being backed into a corner, then there's running to heal. If you're gonna play like that, use pots and save you're opponent time n effort of chasing you down n wasting his time.
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Mar 23 2011 07:41pm
Quote (Guru-PvP @ Mar 23 2011 12:18am)
You first ran out of arrows, so why would I care bout your business? I was takin my time and reppin while you were chasing me with your magic arrow and furies - isnt it funny?

You have right to go to charsi and grab arrows, am I right?


Quote (JSP_Homeboy @ Mar 22 2011 11:46pm)
why didnt u say lets grab arrows?

postit was there, saw our 3x 20min+ duels and said no more arrows



Quote (Guru-PvP @ Mar 23 2011 12:18am)
I was takin my time and reppin while you were chasing me with your magic arrow and furies - isnt it funny?


life rep is nice to regain back a little life, but when u intentionally run and hide to make a duel last 20mins so that u can repp ur life back, thats reffered to as l8z





Quote (Guru-PvP @ Mar 23 2011 12:18am)
You were accusing me multiple times of pot drinking, camping, running and hiding all the time. Jer was in party with me, observing our game, and he denied all your assumptions and accusations.


i had to bring jer in to be sure you wouldnt do it again, i stil lthink u did before he came. remember the first time we ever dueled? the first duel was 45min-hour and it didnt even end. i quit and said i needed a med to come watch ur l8zness. Arelax came and then you played a lil less l8z, which resulted in me winning 5-0



Quote (Guru-PvP @ Mar 23 2011 12:18am)
During our previous challenge you left game when it was 2:0 for me without a word.


u know why i left. i wish i had the pm where u said "i know i lamed you out" we played run around the box/house for 5 mins with me constantly chasing u and u shooting gas around each corner. u hide n spam iga.



Quote (Guru-PvP @ Mar 23 2011 12:18am)
I think you should relax and stop taking this game seriously, because it may affect your health.


i appreciate your concern for my health, i barely play this game i only come on to play zvz and its just kind of annoying when someone wont even duel but resorts to l8z and ultra defensive tactics. it doesnt make the game fun, which is the reason i play in the first place. a zvz duel should not take 2 hours.

This post was edited by JSP_Homeboy on Mar 23 2011 07:42pm
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Quote (JSP_Homeboy @ 23 Mar 2011 20:41)
life rep is nice to regain back a little life, but when u intentionally run and hide to make a duel last 20mins so that u can repp ur life back, thats reffered to as l8z







i had to bring jer in to be sure you wouldnt do it again, i stil lthink u did before he came. remember the first time we ever dueled? the first duel was 45min-hour and it didnt even end.  i quit and said i needed a med to come watch ur l8zness. Arelax came and then you played a lil less l8z, which resulted in me winning 5-0





u know why i left. i wish i had the pm where u said "i know i lamed you out" we played run around the box/house for 5 mins with me constantly chasing u and u shooting gas around each corner. u hide n spam iga.





i appreciate your concern for my health, i barely play this game i only come on to play zvz and its just kind of annoying when someone wont even duel but resorts to l8z and ultra defensive tactics. it doesnt make the game fun, which is the reason i play in the first place. a zvz duel should not take 2 hours.



Take the rest of this to pm's.
I'm trying to get things back in order.
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Mar 23 2011 08:02pm
Quote (JSP_Homeboy @ Mar 23 2011 06:41pm)
i had to bring jer in to be sure you wouldnt do it again, i stil lthink u did before he came. remember the first time we ever dueled? the first duel was 45min-hour and it didnt even end.  i quit and said i needed a med to come watch ur l8zness. Arelax came and then you played a lil less l8z, which resulted in me winning 5-0


I have never used life pots during challenge or any other duel. I don't give a fuck bout 10 years old game that much to drink pots during challenge. If I did, duels would have lasted after 3 minutes.
Yea, you won 5-0, maybe because of the fact I'm kinda fresh to that ladder. Later our challenges were tight and were resulting after 9-10 rounds.

Quote (JSP_Homeboy @ Mar 23 2011 06:41pm)
u know why i left. i wish i had the pm where u said "i know i lamed you out in the second duel" we played run around the box/house for 5 mins with me constantly chasing u and u shooting gas around each corner. u hide n spam iga.


There was neither house, nor box. You chased me around the den, and you should be familiar with the fact that zvz is the duel in which randomized rolls are factors that decide about hits.

I'm afraid you are playing totally different game, or are obsessive about me. You are the only guy who has issues with me. I always play fair enough when I'm not as low as 500 hp.

You are trying to make me look as most l8z player in the ladder, who constantly plays defensively and cheats in 10 years old game.



Challenge #2.


This post was edited by Guru-PvP on Mar 23 2011 08:04pm
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Mar 23 2011 08:34pm
We could all adapt to new rule-sets, we've done it multiple times since D2 Classic. Ultimately the resolve of a duel still results in who is a better duelist and who wants it more.

Also it's good to point out that no matter how many rules are changed/altered/set/removed in an attempt to balance this game,
Peope will always find a way to push the limits in an attempt to exploit and tweak using small advantages in builds/tactics/duel styles and rules
Point being is this: Wherever you go, there you are again and everything is different but it's all the same.

My opinion is this -> Let the D2 Amazon stay a D2 Amazon.
She has traditionally used Guided Arrow, Multishot, Jab and Lightning Fury in ZvZ for almost 10 years now.

Besides the enjoyable dynamic of ZvZ entirely relies on the *choice* to strap your balls on and launch an offense charge with jab/fury to surprise your opponent
It's what you do when you run out of arrows, we all know this and it wouldn't be as fun withought it.

Oh and about the lightning skill discussion ->
No need to incorporate heavy lightning usage, it fails, here is proof quoted by an *All Zon vs All Zon* ladder I ran early this season = http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=51836251&f=147
Bowas win hands down. Lightning skills/builds create serious vulnerabilities in an amazons defense. Base 1 Lightning Fury is all you'll ever need.

See you all soon after reset
Been very excited to join this ladder really
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Mar 23 2011 09:03pm
Quote (Habakkuk22 @ 23 Mar 2011 21:34)
We could all adapt to new rule-sets, we've done it multiple times since D2 Classic. Ultimately the resolve of a duel still results in who is a better duelist and who wants it more.

Also it's good to point out that no matter how many rules are changed/altered/set/removed in an attempt to balance this game,
Peope will always find a way to push the limits in an attempt to exploit and tweak using small advantages in builds/tactics/duel styles and rules
Point being is this: Wherever you go, there you are again and everything is different but it's all the same.

My opinion is this -> Let the D2 Amazon stay a D2 Amazon.
She has traditionally used Guided Arrow, Multishot, Jab and Lightning Fury in ZvZ for almost 10 years now.

Besides the enjoyable dynamic of ZvZ entirely relies on the *choice* to strap your balls on and launch an offense charge with jab/fury to surprise your opponent
It's what you do when you run out of arrows, we all know this and it wouldn't be as fun withought it.

Oh and about the lightning skill discussion ->
No need to incorporate heavy lightning usage, it fails, here is proof quoted by an *All Zon vs All Zon* ladder I ran early this season = http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=51836251&f=147
Bowas win hands down. Lightning skills/builds create serious vulnerabilities in an amazons defense. Base 1 Lightning Fury is all you'll ever need.

See you all soon after reset
Been very excited to join this ladder really


Thanks for your post and interest. See you when you get here.
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Mar 23 2011 09:37pm
Quote (Guru-PvP @ Mar 23 2011 10:02pm)
I have never used life pots during challenge or any other duel. I don't give a fuck bout 10 years old game that much to drink pots during challenge. If I did, duels would have lasted after 3 minutes.
Yea, you won 5-0, maybe because of the fact I'm kinda fresh to that ladder. Later our challenges were tight and were resulting after 9-10 rounds.



There was neither house, nor box. You chased me around the den, and you should be familiar with the fact that zvz is the duel in which randomized rolls are factors that decide about hits.

I'm afraid you are playing totally different game, or are obsessive about me. You are the only guy who has issues with me. I always  play fair enough when I'm not as low as 500 hp.

You are trying to make me look as most l8z player in the ladder, who constantly plays defensively and cheats in 10 years old game.

Challenge #2.


lol @ obsessive about you. what the hell does that mean? your l8z/defensive play is recognized by all, im just the only one who will tell you

you ARE the most l8z zvz'er on this ladder. whether u cheat or not, is still up for debate

and #2 is in a challenge/going on vacation soon.

i wont speak anymore on this issue. even when we duel, i wont bitch at you, ill just make sure i have 3 hours set aside and am high as fuck so im patient.
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Mar 23 2011 09:49pm
I think I'm going to like this ladder better than the Melee vs Melee one ^^
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