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Rule has been changed back Good luck im done








United Guilds Melee Ladder


Melee Ladder Rankings


01. chronic-ftp/Steven - Zeal of Legendary Melee

02. songs/Wack - zeal of Legendary Melee

03. songs/subs - Fury

04. handsomeman83/tw - Zeal

05. Zak_Havok/Zak - Zeal

06. ysr_master/Kisin - Zeal *

07. Karnivor/Karnivor- Zeal

08. Bitemylite/Lykopis - Jab

09.Snowriver8/Parabola - Zeal

10. TheDivision/gogeta - zeal

11. Jordanzo/Engar - Conc

12. Nataraja/Demolay - Zeal

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Present and Pending Duels


08. Karnivor/Karnivor- Zeal vs 10. Bitemylite/Lykopis - Jab (expires sep 13th)


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☆GM Melee Rules☆

1) GM Melee rules apply to all
2) You may change gear twice during a set and once between each set.
3) Using a token mid-challenge is not allowed.
4) A challenge will be best 2/3 sets, first to 6 must win each set by 2 duels.
5) If both players die it is a draw
6) Zon is allowed to use inner sight vs conc and zeal only
7) Fury druid is allowed to reshift


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☆Challenge System☆

- Want to be added to the ladder? Please post your JSP name/Character name - type of character.
- You are allowed to challenge 1-2 ranks above you until you get to #3. At #3, you win both to get to #1.
- To issue a challenge you must pm your opponent, then post in thread.
- If you issue a challenge and win, you must wait 12 hours to issue another challenge. If you issue a challenge and lose you must wait 24 hours to issue another challenge, or 48 hours to rechallenge the same person.
- If you are challenged and win, you can issue a challenge immediately. If you are challenged and lose, you must wait 24 hours to issue a challenge.
- 5-Day Dodge rule (AFK, No-reply, No-show = Auto-loss) 2 consecutive Dodges = Removed from ladder.
- If you cannot complete your challenge on time it is the responsibility of the challenged to post why it wasn't completed.
- If you have any questions about the rules, Pm an Admin of the ladder.


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<Gm Melee Rules>



Prohibitions

- Do not commit acts of bad manner.
- Do not angle (both parallel to the town door)
- Do not prebuff.
- Do not use poison.
- Do not use slow.
- Do not enchant.
- Do not smite.
- Do not charge.
- Do not jump.
- Do not pot.
- Do not run.
- Do not whirlwind.
- Do not knockback.
- Do not use items that emit auras which affect player vs. player (PVP) and cause physical and/or elemental damage.
- Do not emit the holy freeze aura.
- Do not cast item/torch charges.

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List of BM Items

[Weapons - Runewords]
Grief
Doom
Eternity
Death

[Weapons - Uniques]
Cranebeak (War Spike)
Hell Slayer (Decapitator)
Messerschmidt's Reaver (Champion Axe)
Fleshripper (Fanged Knifte)
Nord's Tenderizer (Truncheon)
Demon Limb (Tyrant Club)
Baranar's Star (Devil Star)
Horizon's Tornado (Scourge)
Stormlash (Scourge)
Schaefer's Hammer (Legendary Mallet)
Windhammer (Ogre Maul)
Astreon's Iron Ward (Caduceus)
Djinn Slayer (Ataghan)
Lightsabre (Phase Blade)
Azurewrath (Phase Blade)
Frostwind (Cryptic Sword)
Flamebellow (Balrog Blade)

[Weapons - Rares/Magics]
Any weapon with poison damage (vouch civic 4 this rule update)
Any weapon with more than 200 total elemental damage
Any weapon that casts an elemental skill over Level 5
Any weapon that casts amplify curses ( same with any armor )
Any poison on gear

[Armors]
Nosferatu's Coil (Vampirefang Belt)
Arachnid Mesh (Spiderweb Sash)
Cleglaw's Pincers (Set gloves)
Andariel's Visage (Demonhead)
Blackhorn's Face (Death Mask)
Giant Skull (Bone Visage)
Ethereal Fort
Ethereal Stone
Any armor that casts slow or elemental skill over Level 5
Any ethereal armor with no repair mod or zod rune (breakable armor)


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Special Mention

[Starting Duel] - Both must have "go" over head at same time action begins. If one "go" drops first, wait for them to put it up again

[Miss-Clicking] - Continue fighting

[Glitched Strength] - Auto DQ will result if you die and can't pick up gear

[Chilling Armor] - Must not be on prior to a duel, Referee to kill off surviving player with chilling armor (or your opp if no ref is available or being used)

[Holyshield] - Do not cast holyshield prior to gear change. if casted hs and changed gear, Referee to kill off player and recast hs

[Running into/during Duel] - Point awarded to opponent

[Draws] - If neither player survives a walk back to town, counts as a draw. No point awarded to either player

[Use of Exile/Tap Gear] - Zeal vs Zeal only (may choose not to use tap yourself, but cannot force opponent not to use tap)

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Omittance

Anything not mentioned here is subject to Referee's decision, and is final


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Sep 12 2022 11:50am
Quote (GtMustang @ Sep 12 2022 11:39am)
Okay , I’ll remove myself and Steve or someone else can take over and do what they want after the lod tourney is finished I’m done trying gl to everyone all I wanted was a fair gm community shots dying I tried to save it, I’m done gl everyone I’m removing myself and I’m done updating do as you all wish



This ladder was abandoned a long time ago by the own, and respectfully tonice is selling his zealot and not even on this ladder so his opinion should be irrelevant.

You are the only one hosting tournaments and ladders so I say you make a new one with gm rules that y’all have come to learn. Tap has always been banned on the west, so I’m sure there are more people who agree with you than not.

If you make a new ladder with fair and fun rules and then host your tournaments as an extension from them then it would be better than updating a old ladder and trying to inform everyone of the new rules.

I’ve been in zeal for over 10 years and I’ve never seen tap be allowed and that’s why it’s banned in all tournaments for fg.

I had no intentions of causing anyone to leave and stop hosting tourneys, i was simply following rules that I know to be gm.

It would be a shame if you left and stopped hosting tournaments, without you this place would fall and crumble. I mean you even donated 10k to the pot of the tournament, these people need to put some respect on your name.
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Sep 12 2022 12:17pm
Quote (Nataraja @ Sep 12 2022 01:50pm)
This ladder was abandoned a long time ago by the own, and respectfully tonice is selling his zealot and not even on this ladder so his opinion should be irrelevant.

You are the only one hosting tournaments and ladders so I say you make a new one with gm rules that y’all have come to learn. Tap has always been banned on the west, so I’m sure there are more people who agree with you than not.

If you make a new ladder with fair and fun rules and then host your tournaments as an extension from them then it would be better than updating a old ladder and trying to inform everyone of the new rules.

I’ve been in zeal for over 10 years and I’ve never seen tap be allowed and that’s why it’s banned in all tournaments for fg.

I had no intentions of causing anyone to leave and stop hosting tourneys, i was simply following rules that I know to be gm.

It would be a shame if you left and stopped hosting tournaments, without you this place would fall and crumble. I mean you even donated 10k to the pot of the tournament, these people need to put some respect on your name.




funny how you talk about respect

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Sep 12 2022 12:22pm
I have always used exile if the person simply doesn’t have one I won’t use it because I like to keep it fair but every Zealer should have a tap setup on east if you don’t I would start looking now tap is a lot of fun
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Sep 12 2022 12:34pm
Quote (chronic-ftp @ Sep 12 2022 02:22pm)
I have always used exile if the person simply doesn’t have one I won’t use it because I like to keep it fair but every Zealer should have a tap setup on east if you don’t I would start looking now tap is a lot of fun


Vouch this ;)
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Sep 12 2022 01:20pm
Quote (chronic-ftp @ Sep 12 2022 01:22pm)
I have always used exile if the person simply doesn’t have one I won’t use it because I like to keep it fair but every Zealer should have a tap setup on east if you don’t I would start looking now tap is a lot of fun



You can’t use all the weps with tap because of ias bps, means I gotta get a new wep to even have a tap setup and another helmet. I like my hammer 🔨 but I’ll have to get a rod if mustang don’t make a gm ladder “ I hope he does”

Y’all can’t tap vrs barbs or zons so I dunno, exile is looser sht to me, almost and lame as a prudence sa everyone wears.
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Sep 12 2022 01:22pm
Ya’ll need to move on to D2R and check out our ladder! I’m telling you it is worth it.

Anyways…I’ve read all the posts and my outside opinion is just take a deep breath and regroup. The melee community has lasted so long for a reason…the last 2 pages is silly guys. Put it behind ya’ll and come together.
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Sep 12 2022 01:24pm
Quote (Nataraja @ Sep 12 2022 03:20pm)
You can’t use all the weps with tap because of ias bps, means I gotta get a new wep to even have a tap setup and another helmet. I like my hammer 🔨 but I’ll have to get a rod if mustang don’t make a gm ladder “ I hope he does”

Y’all can’t tap vrs barbs or zons so I dunno, exile is looser sht to me, almost and lame as a prudence sa everyone wears.


So we have to change the rules of a 12 years+ ladder because you're using a shitty mallet?

make sense

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Sep 12 2022 01:32pm
Quote (Greniator @ Sep 12 2022 02:24pm)
So we have to change the rules of a 12 years+ ladder because you're using a shitty mallet?

make sense

Go back to west



I mean I can min/ max everything and use a rod and hit the same bps and buy a extra helm with a tap setup, but would be only for this old ass ladder and wouldn’t even be able to use it in a tournament. I mean zeal is random enough, now y’all wanna random life tap to that, it’s just lame to me at the end of the day and life tap is even bm in the pubs so I don’t know whatever, I’ll wait a week or two before I commit to a overpriced rod. I hope mustang makes a gm ladder.

This post was edited by Nataraja on Sep 12 2022 01:33pm
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Quote (Nataraja @ Sep 12 2022 03:32pm)
I mean I can min/ max everything and use a rod and hit the same bps and buy a extra helm with a tap setup, but would be only for this old ass ladder and wouldn’t even be able to use it in a tournament. I mean zeal is random enough, now y’all wanna random life tap to that, it’s just lame to me at the end of the day and life tap is even bm in the pubs so I don’t know whatever, I’ll wait a week or two before I commit to a overpriced rod.


I don't personally love tap, but this ladder is a tradition at this point and it's always been tap in zeal vs zeal. And just so you know, there have been tap tournies in the past, so what you are saying about not being able to tap in tournies isn't true.

Also, it is pretty much pointless to use a 244 mallet knowing that you could get the same avg dmg with 290+ seraph rod, but thats your choice in the end.

Make your own ladder / tourny if you want your own rules.

This post was edited by Greniator on Sep 12 2022 01:44pm
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