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Jan 7 2015 01:16pm
What is this 'mass defensive' dueling mean. Cause on world ladder that means running off screen/map for more than 10+seconds.

I know with my style of quick hit n run n mb spam when I'm 102fcr mode is needed XD (especially with certain people getting op claws now lol and prevents bruteforce exchanges) but I remain onscreen/map wise. Lmk.

Btw I may or may not participate in placement tourney rankings, will lyk as the time to duel comes sooner. So I may jus climb.

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Jan 7 2015 01:25pm
Hrmm >_< I'll join.

Though I wont be able to start dueling until Sunday because I work alot. I'll just start from the bottom of the ladder.

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Jan 7 2015 01:28pm
Quote (D0MAIN @ Jan 7 2015 03:16pm)
What is this 'mass defensive' dueling mean. Cause on world ladder that means running off screen/map for more than 10+seconds.

I know with my style of quick hit n run n mb spam when I'm 102fcr mode is needed XD (especially with certain people getting op claws now lol and prevents bruteforce exchanges)  but I remain onscreen/map wise. Lmk.

Btw I may or may not participate in placement tourney rankings, will lyk as the time to duel comes sooner. So I may jus climb.


This rule actually predates your usage of 08 valk for GvG hit and run tactics. And it stands true, do not duel overly defensive.

What you normally do is fine, so long as you are performing occasional valid exchanges and not running from your opponent the ENTIRE duel. In the future, I may set a limit on how much % open wounds may be used on a single claw if this becomes an issue.

You already signed up, so at this point you can simply not show up and forfeit your duel if you don't want to compete.

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Hrmm >_< I'll join.

Though I wont be able to start dueling until Sunday because I work alot. I'll just start from the bottom of the ladder.

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That's fine, I'll add you to the bottom once everyone is ranked. Welcome :)

This post was edited by Decarnate on Jan 7 2015 01:30pm
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This rule actually predates your usage of 08 valk for GvG hit and run tactics.  And it stands true, do not duel overly defensive. 

What you normally do is fine, so long as you are performing occasional valid exchanges and not running from your opponent the ENTIRE duel.  In the future, I may set a limit on how much % open wounds may be used on a single claw if this becomes an issue.

You already signed up, so at this point you can simply not show up and forfeit your duel if you don't want to compete.



That's fine, I'll add you to the bottom once everyone is ranked. Welcome :)


Okay so I'm good then and I do do exchanges and stay on map with my mb locks. Lol wat, you're thinking of/going to set ow limit on a claw? When certain people already have op 20s rep cruel/fools claws :rofl: last I checked those erep 20s claws>hybrid cof :P

Mmmk I'll see if I will.
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Okay so I'm good then and I do do exchanges and stay on map with my mb locks. Lol wat, you're thinking of/going to set ow limit on a claw? When certain people already have op 20s rep cruel/fools claws  :rofl: last I checked those erep 20s claws>hybrid cof  :P

Mmmk I'll see if I will.


I just said if it becomes as issue lol. Open wounds CAN be exploited with 102 Fcr and you know this. Since you're the only one who uses it and you clearly duel within GM rules, I don't forsee it becoming a problem. ^^
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I just said if it becomes as issue lol.  Open wounds CAN be exploited with 102 Fcr and you know this.  Since you're the only one who uses it and you clearly duel within GM rules, I don't forsee it becoming a problem. ^^


Mmk. Ye op claws are op
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Jan 7 2015 02:23pm
i may struggle to dedicate my thursday evening to this tourney (especially since 9pm eastern is dinnertime on my end), but i'll do my best to attend.

either way, looking forward to the new ladder.

p.s. your new claw is disgusting, seep. :P
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Jan 7 2015 02:31pm
Quote (D0MAIN @ Jan 7 2015 04:03pm)
Mmk. Ye op claws are op


I'm sure you'll have one soon enough ^_^

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i may struggle to dedicate my thursday evening to this tourney (especially since 9pm eastern is dinnertime on my end), but i'll do my best to attend.

either way, looking forward to the new ladder.

p.s. your new claw is disgusting, seep. :P


:evil:

Hope to see ya there! If dinner is the issue, just afk in the channel and I can setup your duel for a little later. Its np. :)

Tonight I'll prepare a format in the event we don't have 10 participants.
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Jan 7 2015 02:54pm
Quote (Decarnate @ Jan 7 2015 03:45pm)
I just said if it becomes as issue lol.  Open wounds CAN be exploited with 102 Fcr and you know this.  Since you're the only one who uses it and you clearly duel within GM rules, I don't forsee it becoming a problem. ^^


I dont think it will be a problem. Putting a "gm limit" on openwounds per claw seems dumb. There should be a counter to everything. If someone is gonna use a bvb build, they should be allowed to be bled to death. It makes it more of a rock paper scissor match up as opposed to "1 best build" that everyone has to get in order to get top 3. Sometimes 2os 300ed eth fools is out of price budget and if you get get #1 without the use of it, hey more props to ya mate.

With the way Riz duels, I say its completely fine. In fact, even 24/7 mb is gm. Overly defensive dueling usually applies to trapper who run around a box to out mana their opponent while life repping back up from 1 or a necro who never appears on map and just spams trains of IBS. This shouldn't be an issue in GVG
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Quote (Azn Masta @ Jan 7 2015 04:54pm)
I dont think it will be a problem. Putting a "gm limit" on openwounds per claw seems dumb. There should be a counter to everything. If someone is gonna use a bvb build, they should be allowed to be bled to death. It makes it more of a rock paper scissor match up as opposed to "1 best build" that everyone has to get in order to get top 3. Sometimes 2os 300ed eth fools is out of price budget and if you get get #1 without the use of it, hey more props to ya mate.

With the way Riz duels, I say its completely fine. In fact, even 24/7 mb is gm. Overly defensive dueling usually applies to trapper who run around a box to out mana their opponent while life repping back up from 1 or a necro who never appears on map and just spams trains of IBS. This shouldn't be an issue in GVG


Thanks for your input.
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