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Lvl 9
What skills are needed with shout?
Can these spawn? Any others?

axe mastery
mace mastery
bash

Lvl 18
Same question about Concentrate + ?

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Quote (ischiLLy @ Oct 17 2020 12:13pm)
Lvl 9
What skills are needed with shout?
Can these spawn? Any others?

axe mastery
mace mastery
bash

Lvl 18
Same question about Concentrate + ?


Ive owned a 3/3/3 lvl 18 horned helm

Conc/shout/iron skin. Not sure about lvl 9 gear though
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Oct 17 2020 05:20pm
Can spawn lvl 9 also
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Oct 17 2020 10:32pm
lvl 9 you have two options:
3 shout 3 sock
3 shout 3 mastery (mace/sword/axe) 2 socket

bash can spawn, but it operates in the same fashion as holy shield, whirlwind etc where it isn't supposed to spawn in game due to the (rather odd) coding that was implemented in 1.10. but if the game rolls an invalid staffmod like bash/hs/ww 6 times then the next roll it can spawn and if the game selects an invalid staffmod it will be there for you to use :) basically good luck finding a barb helm with it and even then, definitely good luck having it with 3 shout/3 mastery on it because bash, being a T1 affix, will only spawn in parts of normal mode (mainly A1-A2)

ww/hs are much more common being T6/T5 affixes and having the ability to spawn on very high ilvl items, which is where most MFing occurs

lvl 18:
3 conc 3 shout 3 iron skin 3 socket. conc functions similar to bash, but again is unrestricted by ilvl reqs so theyre much more common. shout being a T2 affix complicates matters so, i think this helm is best found in norm cows. 3 shout/3 iron skin can be found in nm/hell whatever so much easier to find and much more common

some detail here:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=14503106&f=143
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67041534&f=87
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=64297647&f=87

This post was edited by excellence on Oct 17 2020 10:36pm
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Quote (excellence @ 17 Oct 2020 22:32)
lvl 9 you have two options:
3 shout 3 sock
3 shout 3 mastery (mace/sword/axe) 2 socket

bash can spawn, but it operates in the same fashion as holy shield, whirlwind etc where it isn't supposed to spawn in game due to the (rather odd) coding that was implemented in 1.10. but if the game rolls an invalid staffmod like bash/hs/ww 6 times then the next roll it can spawn and if the game selects an invalid staffmod it will be there for you to use :) basically good luck finding a barb helm with it and even then, definitely good luck having it with 3 shout/3 mastery on it because bash, being a T1 affix, will only spawn in parts of normal mode (mainly A1-A2)

ww/hs are much more common being T6/T5 affixes and having the ability to spawn on very high ilvl items, which is where most MFing occurs

lvl 18:
3 conc 3 shout 3 iron skin 3 socket. conc functions similar to bash, but again is unrestricted by ilvl reqs so theyre much more common. shout being a T2 affix complicates matters so, i think this helm is best found in norm cows. 3 shout/3 iron skin can be found in nm/hell whatever so much easier to find and much more common

some detail here:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=14503106&f=143
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67041534&f=87
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=64297647&f=87


Don't forget about Biggin's Bonnet which will enchance all outgoing damage by thirty per cent. This means whatever dmg u think u do, u do 30% more. I'm no math whiz but I'm pretty sure if I had a 30% chance to die 2morrow I'd be scared.
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Quote (Belarathon @ Oct 18 2020 07:13am)
Don't forget about Biggin's Bonnet which will enchance all outgoing damage by thirty per cent. This means whatever dmg u think u do, u do 30% more. I'm no math whiz but I'm pretty sure if I had a 30% chance to die 2morrow I'd be scared.


I always pictured biggons bonnet having a big red, frilly bow on it
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Quote (lld_mayhem @ Oct 17 2020 04:09pm)
Ive owned a 3/3/3 lvl 18 horned helm

Conc/shout/iron skin. Not sure about lvl 9 gear though


Quote (excellence @ Oct 18 2020 06:32am)
lvl 9 you have two options:
3 shout 3 sock
3 shout 3 mastery (mace/sword/axe) 2 socket

bash can spawn, but it operates in the same fashion as holy shield, whirlwind etc where it isn't supposed to spawn in game due to the (rather odd) coding that was implemented in 1.10. but if the game rolls an invalid staffmod like bash/hs/ww 6 times then the next roll it can spawn and if the game selects an invalid staffmod it will be there for you to use :) basically good luck finding a barb helm with it and even then, definitely good luck having it with 3 shout/3 mastery on it because bash, being a T1 affix, will only spawn in parts of normal mode (mainly A1-A2)

ww/hs are much more common being T6/T5 affixes and having the ability to spawn on very high ilvl items, which is where most MFing occurs

lvl 18:
3 conc 3 shout 3 iron skin 3 socket. conc functions similar to bash, but again is unrestricted by ilvl reqs so theyre much more common. shout being a T2 affix complicates matters so, i think this helm is best found in norm cows. 3 shout/3 iron skin can be found in nm/hell whatever so much easier to find and much more common

some detail here:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=14503106&f=143
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67041534&f=87
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=64297647&f=87


perfect, thx :)
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