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Mar 7 2019 08:46am
Quote (cota @ Mar 7 2019 08:41am)
resist gear and or skills that give resist IE Natural Resist Barb, i have tons of resist on all my chars and dont use any resist charms ....


And its not that V/Ts are useless they are just out done by other chars and classes, Sorce,Necro,Zon,Barb,Sin, Druid and any other type of pally have alot more use/ things to bring to a TVT


none of your chars have 150 total res for all slots, sorry.

cold, prob. light, maybe. fire, NOPE.

on a barb you could with nat res and a few swap items.

but swap items have a cost. simply saying you CAN swap in res ignores that cost.

but really tho, in 2019, if you're only making cookie cutter builds, we just have a fundamental difference about the state of the game and what interests us. all the chars you've listed i've built 5 of, each. its just not fun anymore.

i have access to all of the best chars on east, more or less, and if not the #1 the #2 or #3 on east. no point in building any of those.

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u mean fohing then charginging away as needed like a weenie or......


yup death by 1000 cuts. takes forever, is boring, etc.

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teleport weould make it so much quicker
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lld vt vs vt would be so dumb though lol


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why use saitama, when a saibaman alone can do the job

and my statement still stands
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tbh the optimal 4s team has 1-2 support chars, its not all pure offense at that top top tier.

ye man

back in the time of dueling leagues on europe, your team only had a chance if it included such. here's an example with v/t (also notice, the hammerdin is also considered a support char xD)



This post was edited by rudipk on Mar 7 2019 09:07am
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Quote (Haseo @ Mar 7 2019 08:58am)
why use saitama, when a saibaman alone can do the job

and my statement still stands




What ever flouts your boat brotha :rofl:


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What ever flouts your boat brotha :rofl:


u should fix the top to say lld vt vs vt

even tho high lvl vt vs vt is still sorta dumb too
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Quote (rudipk @ Mar 7 2019 08:59am)
ye man

back in the time of dueling leagues on europe, your team only had a chance if it included such. here's an example with v/t (also notice, the hammerdin is also considered a support char xD)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVC1aCTP_Ws


east never got a TvT tourney together or I think support chars would be more popular.

lots of builds become viable if that meta were to catch on but everyone wants to be a hero and pew pew fireballs lol
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Quote (cota @ Mar 7 2019 08:41am)
.. as far as the learning curve you haven't posted anything thats not common with any other class lol, i have set up vs each diff chars i come across and a diff play style vs each ... thats dueling in d2
but as far as a learning curve.. all of your skills are ez to hit , smite click n hold *might aswell be vlld vs vlld* FOH * dont even have to click on oppoenent* wheres the skill cap in this?

Its kinda hard to say its a high skill cap char when skills you use are hold n click aswell as auto target w/o name lock

ctc amp cannot be counted on since its not always reliable, and cleanse is BM end of story no more to it idgaf tvt or solo.


Would you like a comprehensive break down in detail? I mean I could formulate a equation/example and you, then you can measure the difficulty. G* Foh²(conv radius 13.3) switch [vigor toggle] charge¹/smite¹(5% amp mix up) sync[fant toggle] switch charge/Foh²(kite) . This is one string of many combinations you could do within probably 4-6 seconds.

Some may find this easy, to some it comes naturally ,some have tempered their skills to reach a flawless execution.

I accept cleanse v/t vs v/t you wanna run/flee every time you get amp'd, counter that to continue you're assault. You sound like you're against new ideas or diversity, and again this is strictly for v/t vs v/t. You don't have to agree to cleanse. Like Eop you can ask, I say its up to opponents discretion.

Off topic: If any one would like me to help them regarding a lay out for a guide, lmk. (i do charge pm for details)

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east never got a TvT tourney together or I think support chars would be more popular.

lots of builds become viable if that meta were to catch on but everyone wants to be a hero and pew pew fireballs lol


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