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Jun 11 2018 01:30pm
Quote (Avenged123 @ Jun 11 2018 02:07pm)
Could say the same about east lld... it was unlikely to poof because 1. Not many ppl in lld use bmanas 2. Not a big enough player base for it to clash against someone... but recently there’s been more new players coming who are willing to use bmanas and possibly poof the one thought perm.


pretty sure thats not how shit poofing works. an unperm doesnt need to be in the same game with another identical item ID, it just needs to be on the same server. the easiest way to get them on the same server is to put them in the same game though.
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Jun 11 2018 02:04pm
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why would he give the password out to the same people when one of them just scammed him?*


*assuming it didn't poof
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Jun 11 2018 02:09pm
Quote (mike_roch @ Jun 11 2018 03:03pm)
If I had gear equal to slams I'd never give password to anyone other than a set few whom I'd trust with basically anything.


yeah but if no1 is going to use it that's a huge waste
at least go full bel and run around moor with some trusty/active ppl in game following u around with an empty inv while u leap around dropping all ur shit.

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Jun 11 2018 02:16pm
Quote (Avenged123 @ Jun 11 2018 11:00am)
It’s been on 1 char, and it’s possible if it was a priv/uncommon dupe

If you know me/nick then you know neither of us have reason to take anything, I have well over 300k worth of stuff, w/ friends who will give me 5k+ fg if I asked, there’s no need for me to try to off a bmana... and nick rolls blunts w/ 100$ bills, so I doubt he needs to off a bmana

The fact of the matter is you’re dealing w/ a hacked item and when you do that, you run the risk and of having an unperm.


There's no reason to make a new private dupe for a 10k fg charm when you can use one of the uncommon fpk ones that none of the clashers have even now

Quote (DCSS @ Jun 11 2018 03:04pm)
*assuming it didn't poof


Let's put it this way, between theweirdone and gorillaguy every common bmana id has been ingame with slam while they were losing to him. I had access to most of the other ids that I used in fpk to try and poof people's gear.
You're saying that in 5 years he's never clashed against someone?

Quote (Avenged123 @ Jun 11 2018 02:07pm)
Could say the same about east lld... it was unlikely to poof because 1. Not many ppl in lld use bmanas 2. Not a big enough player base for it to clash against someone... but recently there’s been more new players coming who are willing to use bmanas and possibly poof the one thought perm.


That's not how unperms work

Quote (DCSS @ Jun 11 2018 03:09pm)
yeah but if no1 is going to use it that's a huge waste
at least go full bel and run around moor with some trusty/active ppl in game following u around with an empty inv while u leap around dropping all ur shit.


You're suggesting he willingly give his password to someone who just scammed him.
As far as he's concerned if someone scams it, it's wasted anyway.

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Let's put it this way, between theweirdone and gorillaguy every common bmana id has been ingame with slam while they were losing to him. I had access to most of the other ids that I used in fpk to try and poof people's gear.
You're saying that in 5 years he's never clashed against someone?


it's the inherent risk of items like that
besides bmanas are bm
they should all poof along with hybrids and imports
at least if it was stolen it's probably going to be funneled into some collection or hld dumpster char where it can't do any damage here

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Jun 11 2018 02:25pm
Quote (DCSS @ Jun 11 2018 03:23pm)
it's the inherent risk of items like that
besides bmanas are bm
they should all poof along with hybrids and imports
at least if it was stolen it's probably going to be funneled into some collection or hld dumpster char where it can't do any damage here


What's stopping the guy from just putting it on one of his level 30s and killing you with it?
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Jun 11 2018 02:26pm
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What's stopping the guy from just putting it on one of his level 30s and killing you with it?


me not having the game installed
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Jun 11 2018 02:27pm
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me not having the game installed


Somehow I don't think that would stop you from losing.
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Jun 11 2018 02:27pm
2018 and ppl are still scamming? Smh
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Jun 11 2018 02:29pm
Quote (Avenged123 @ Jun 11 2018 01:07pm)
Could say the same about east lld... it was unlikely to poof because 1. Not many ppl in lld use bmanas 2. Not a big enough player base for it to clash against someone... but recently there’s been more new players coming who are willing to use bmanas and possibly poof the one thought perm.


that's not how this works, that's not how any of this works.

the server ID only needs to be the same, not the same game, difficulty(iirc), etc.

its the reason i think poofing is unlikely. unless this is an incredibly private dupe, which i'm not sure why someone would have done i guess.

for those who owned bmana's post item ID that were perm you're essentially devaluing your item to nothing, bmanas have been valuable for a long time. duping it and being unperm would have been done after we got item IDs, which if you were going to do you'd likely dupe a shit load of them. which would then lead to it being re-duped shit loads of times.

the scenario we have here is (hypothetically) someone with a bmana post item IDs decides to dupe their bmana only a small number of times, then those small number of duped copies don't get sold and stay with that person. The most likely motivation is some HLD guy who owned a perm bmana, who then duped it and put 1x copy on all of his dueling chars. Likely someone with only them on their acc with no shares.

even then im not sure what would happen if you took a char in a dueling game with unperm copy #1, then quit, then rejoined on a new char with unperm copy #2 in the same game. if that "memory" in the game of the item having been there can poof the bmana, i think this honestly gets into fairy tale territory.

edit: scenario 2 is that at some point someone "trusted" borrowed the bmana to have it duped, so they could have one too. and now both are unperm.

or someone stole it.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jun 11 2018 02:32pm
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