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Jun 24 2010 07:39am
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Going to bring this one to your attention as well as the necro one:

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=45307450&f=143
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=44569164&f=143

both are great guides worthy of sticky.

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Both stickied.

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Jun 24 2010 07:43am
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lol nice i probably should have titled it something better huhuhu

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Jun 24 2010 08:21am
Hybrids are always super fun in tvt. I hope to join another tvt soon.

Now eveyone on youtube knows the game pass also :D
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Jun 24 2010 08:26am
lol no vs sorc strategy eZ
you also forgot to include swordback under shield section even though you included it in your neat bp s/s

n1 guide
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Jun 24 2010 09:09am
yo one question: is the kick part mainly for the cb or for damage too?

if for dmg too i cant see why you should use cow kings over some rare high kick dmg boots (light plated?)
is the dmg increase unsignificant compared to the loss of 10 frw and 20 stats? (possibly more stats cuz no str statted for dmg cuz just for cb?)

the rares could also have 10fhr resis and half freeze duration.

i have no experience at all with this build but at the first shot id stat her as a kicker and gear her as a ph sin besides the kick swich and kick boots and ed/stat or str sockets. id also think about a steel flail + cb glowes (25ias/50% ow, 8/3 frames or 7/3 with bloodfists maybe vs some where cb is irrelevant compared to kick dmg)

i guess thats it with my thought for now
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Jun 24 2010 09:27am
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Hybrids are always super fun in tvt. I hope to join another tvt soon.

Now eveyone on youtube knows the game pass also :D


Lol its okay i cap the games 4 levels so we dont get hld slam or uhoh overflows
Quote (volka @ Jun 24 2010 10:09am)
yo one question: is the kick part mainly for the cb or for damage too?

if for dmg too i cant see why you should use cow kings over some rare high kick dmg boots (light plated?)
is the dmg increase unsignificant compared to the loss of 10 frw and 20 stats? (possibly more stats cuz no str statted for dmg cuz just for cb?)

the rares could also have 10fhr resis and half freeze duration.

i have no experience at all with this build but at the first shot id stat her as a kicker and gear her as a ph sin besides the kick swich and kick boots and ed/stat or str sockets. id also think about a steel flail + cb glowes (25ias/50% ow, 8/3 frames or 7/3 with bloodfists maybe vs some where cb is irrelevant compared to kick dmg)

i guess thats it with my thought for now


Well i only invested 6 points into talon for 2 kicks and the attack rate. The rationale was 2 kicks are ideal vs runners but not vs melee based chars. The additional kick damage on light plated boots is marginal because this build is vita and also theres a lack of skill enhanced damage. Also the frw speed is necessary on the boots if you are going to try catching zons.

Your right though Half Freeze duration would be nice mod as well while in 102% faster cast set up since a lack of deaths sash. At the 65% faster cast set up its easy to swap out the cast belt for deaths.

If i restated for titan build then i would have very low life because of high mana requirements and if i reskilled for higher kick damage, ph damage would be lacking

I can test steel flail though and let you know what i think about it. It seems like a pretty good idea and it would mean that i would not have to swap out my shield for ow damage
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Jun 24 2010 09:31am
Quote (Mr_Puddles @ Jun 24 2010 09:26am)
lol no vs sorc strategy eZ
you also forgot to include swordback under shield section even though you included it in your neat bp s/s

n1 guide


Yeah no strategy because ive only dueled 1 sorc on it. Ive dueled pretty much everything else on it though.

I could make a quick tutorial on how to theoretically duel a sorc. Ib and fb since ive played both for quite a while.

Dueling Pud's sorc would probably require a much more intensive guide though huhuhuhu. I will not reveal your gozu tactics on how to stomp. I'll keep that a secret until you make a fb zork guide
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Lol its okay i cap the games 4 levels so we dont get hld slam or uhoh overflows

Well i only invested 6 points into talon for 2 kicks and the attack rate. The rationale was 2 kicks are ideal vs runners but not vs melee based chars. The additional kick damage on light plated boots is marginal because this build is vita and also theres a lack of skill enhanced damage. Also the frw speed is necessary on the boots if you are going to try catching zons.

Your right though Half Freeze duration would be nice mod as well while in 102% faster cast set up since a lack of deaths sash. At the 65% faster cast set up its easy to swap out the cast belt for deaths.

If i restated for titan build then i would have very low life because of high mana requirements and if i reskilled for higher kick damage, ph damage would be lacking

I can test steel flail though and let you know what i think about it. It seems like a pretty good idea and it would mean that i would not have to swap out my shield for ow damage


roy wrote a bit about steel flail vs crushflang on his lvl 18 kicker guide on lld101 if you want an additional opinion.
i also think you would loose like something between 50 and 100 life right? id say give it a shot at open bnet and see if a more kickwise gear tho still ph maxed skills would be worth it. im just saying that cuz i see how nicely kick works on my lvl 30 ls/kick hybrid works. i know this is no comparison to a lvl 18 ph/kick but thats where my thought come from.
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Jun 24 2010 09:54am
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roy wrote a bit about steel flail vs crushflang on his lvl 18 kicker guide on lld101 if you want an additional opinion.
i also think you would loose like something between 50 and 100 life right? id say give it a shot at open bnet and see if a more kickwise gear tho still ph maxed skills would be worth it. im just saying that cuz i see how nicely kick works on my lvl 30 ls/kick hybrid works. i know this is no comparison to a lvl 18 ph/kick but thats where my thought come from.


i hear you. My sin only has like 60 kick damage though so 10 pvp damage total x2 kicks. The cb is really all thats holding the 'hybrid' factor together. I could probably make it a titan build and upgrade my charms from 12 fhr/33 mana to full invent of 15/7s just to balance out my life bulb but then i would also require more fhr on my gear to still hit a suitable fhr bp and by doing all of this the guide really wouldnt be suitable for starting chars anymore because its too gear oriented. I tried to design it so that its still possible to try to replicate this build on a fairly low budget.

Right now she works well and i know she has her limitations ie. trying to melee a zealot = bad idea and trying to beat Sammich huhu.

I also forgot to mention using cloak of shadows in my tutorial. I will also have to write a blurb on that when i get a few minutes
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Jun 24 2010 11:07am
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phys hammer has the same breakpoints as teleport?


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