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Jul 28 2021 08:15am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 28 2021 03:03pm)
LLD started from trist/tomb pkers.

Leandro, ATOMICMAN, Bel, BIGSPOT, meitou, and Break are about the oldest i know of. but im sure humble brad will say he's generation 2.0

card_sultan was wave 2, claimed to have been LLDing for a while when he encountered break, break wanted a wand card had, card said NOT FOR SALE, break tried harder, card dug deeper. card was always a self built LLDer guy, mf'd his own shit, and rarely traded. but if he knew u wanted something bad good fucking luck, dude was an asshole. thus because of the card statement that he had been llding before lld games even were a thing and it was still a priv scene and he got called out the "inventor of LLD" meme began. in reality he claimed to have like a lvl 29 necro made just to house cool gear for an LLD well before LLD duels existed lol. maybe he was pking levelers, maybe he's just an idiot who had a cool wand.

wouldnt shock me if it was indeed Leandro tho, dudes the #1 d2 player of all time without a doubt. legend has it it would take him a full day to refresh his mules.


I was around when bel and hcfx had dizzy, and that was during a time when barbs power creeped up to 30. I played a lvl 24 conc barb for a couple years prior to that. During that time I met Leandro and his conc barb was super stacked.

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Jul 28 2021 12:12pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 28 2021 09:03am)
LLD started from trist/tomb pkers.

Leandro, ATOMICMAN, Bel, BIGSPOT, meitou, and Break are about the oldest i know of. but im sure humble brad will say he's generation 2.0

card_sultan was wave 2, claimed to have been LLDing for a while when he encountered break, break wanted a wand card had, card said NOT FOR SALE, break tried harder, card dug deeper. card was always a self built LLDer guy, mf'd his own shit, and rarely traded. but if he knew u wanted something bad good fucking luck, dude was an asshole. thus because of the card statement that he had been llding before lld games even were a thing and it was still a priv scene and he got called out the "inventor of LLD" meme began. in reality he claimed to have like a lvl 29 necro made just to house cool gear for an LLD well before LLD duels existed lol. maybe he was pking levelers, maybe he's just an idiot who had a cool wand.

wouldnt shock me if it was indeed Leandro tho, dudes the #1 d2 player of all time without a doubt. legend has it it would take him a full day to refresh his mules.


yeah, i was in there AFTER everyone else you put me with lol. i do remember seeing the old level brackets for some tourneys, and the transition on 101 to the 9-12, 15, 18, and 30 brackets we have now. but that was at my very start. 24 conc barbs and 28 paladins were not very common.
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Jul 28 2021 12:16pm
Quote (meegz1 @ Jul 28 2021 01:12pm)
yeah, i was in there AFTER everyone else you put me with lol. i do remember seeing the old level brackets for some tourneys, and the transition on 101 to the 9-12, 15, 18, and 30 brackets we have now. but that was at my very start. 24 conc barbs and 28 paladins were not very common.


ATOMIC and Bel are prob the best we can draw on at this point for a timeline, but i know recall that far back gets tricky.

i just remember by patches, i started LLD in 1.09 but was only VLLD until well into 1.10, maybe 1.11. i joined this sub when Jawn bought a perf honor naga off me, and i became aware the sub and LLD existed as a thing. in 1.09 it was just me and a buddy PKing in norm games for fun on lvl 9s.
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Jul 28 2021 02:20pm
Quote (danzeva @ Jul 24 2021 10:29pm)
Sup bros :thumbsup:

Before I begin, the idea of hybrid's in 9-30 duels goes against the principal ideas of general lld rules.

DFC (diablo fighting championship) lld is a separate format with rules set for a meta using(or not using)hybrids for lld. So if you want to use hybrids....don't use them in 9-30 duels, just go to the DFC instead.

Moving on, I wanted to ask for some help as I'm not sure how to go about what I want to pilot. I scoped out some of the DFC participants and saw the majority (96%) used eop. I don't own an eop but I do have a goh.

At first I wanted to go in with a smiter, but I want to try some thing different.

Goh-df / trapper

This is what I have so far

https://i.ibb.co/ygX6VGx/dfctoon.png

Went with sword back to try and trigger that ow on top of goh while I mb them for some extra dot.

I went with more +skill to mart thinking I'll need the ar to land that df with goh.

Not sure if to use sojs or not, I'm thinking I'll need the +skills for more trap dmg, but idk if I'll do enough dmg with ls so I should go with wof??

Should I go with spirit swap or main a teleport stave?

Bos or fade?? Thinking bos would be better trap laying speed also I'm not sure what fcr I'll need :P

No idea on belt, I feel it can be interchangeable depending on ma. Same with gloves??

Note if I'm using a hybrid I cant use any life rep, I believe that's one of the rules. Or it's set to 15, I'll find out later lol.

Frw?120?

Life 900+?

Mana 900+?

Ar for dragon flight?? This is a big one sense I want to land it as much as possible vs max block while using goh.

Not sure if I should use pro boots for more df dmg or just use some thing like cowkings or sanders for dex/ar sense goh would do most the dmg??

Hmu bois


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Jul 28 2021 02:24pm
Quote (MrHandsome @ Jul 28 2021 02:20pm)
shut up


Or what? You gonna bm me? :rofl:

Wait you don't even lld :thumbsup:
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Jul 28 2021 02:27pm
Quote (danzeva @ Jul 28 2021 10:24pm)
Or what? You gonna bm me? :rofl:

Wait you don't even lld :thumbsup:


i invented lld (w/o the help of friends)
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Jul 28 2021 02:33pm
Quote (MrHandsome @ Jul 28 2021 02:27pm)
i invented lld (w/o the help of friends)


*Slow clap

Go invent your self some friends I guess? I reinvented vtpk for lld with friends , but you don't see me getting praise (idc) on the contrary I get hated on lol. Even then I don't tell people to shut up...but still..youuu shut up :)
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Jul 28 2021 02:34pm
Quote (lld_mayhem @ 28 Jul 2021 06:17)
I definitely don't know who created lld and I was an early lld pub rand.
I had a bugged eye of etlich throw barb that made people rage quit.

My guess was that Leandro started lld, just so that he could use all the insane stuff he hoarded haha

Krajee has been around for basically forever (and still lurks this forum), we should ask him

^krajee


Here's something from 2013 that chronicled some stuff. Shit's pretty cringey but was a fun read for me

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69226920&f=143
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Jul 28 2021 02:35pm
Quote (danzeva @ Jul 28 2021 10:33pm)
*Slow clap

Go invent your self some friends I guess? I reinvented vtpk for lld with friends , but you don't see me getting praise (idc) on the contrary I get hated on lol. Even then I don't tell people to shut up...but still..youuu shut up :)


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Jul 28 2021 02:38pm
Quote (Belarathon @ Jul 28 2021 10:34pm)
Here's something from 2013 that chronicled some stuff. Shit's pretty cringey but was a fun read for me

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69226920&f=143


Good read. Has some nostalgica to it - even from a euro-perspective.
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