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Jan 19 2015 01:43pm
Quote (Panjer @ Jan 18 2015 09:48pm)
Character Name: Panjer
Character Level: 9
Character Type: Kicksin
Do you agree to all of the rules in your appropriate section (LLD or MLD): Yes


will be adding a level 9 ladder shortly :)

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59 is mld on eu? may as well go to 90 at that point lmao


Popular rules here, in which 95% of this ladder's rules were derived from:



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Jan 19 2015 01:51pm
so why cant paladins use charge at all, just didnt want any hammerdonkas? they literally cant do anything without it besides spin gubers

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so why cant paladins use charge at all, just didnt want any hammerdonkas? they literally cant do anything without it besides spin gubers


I don't like the idea of pure hammerdins being in a GM ladder using desynch - doesn't seem right to me. In the sense of dueling, either hammerdins use charge (in which case, they win), or they dont VS certain classes (which are typically melee classes) in which hammerdins will win anyway. If you'd like to discuss a way of making the rule truly fair (maybe banning the use of charge with insight on? or something you come up with) I'm totally up to it :)
I'll be making a BM ladder for 30 and 49 in which there will be a very limited set of rules.
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Jan 19 2015 02:29pm
esfb / lvl 49 / ???
esfb / lvl 30 / ???

still searching for names, then rush them, equ is about done.

nice thread!
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Jan 19 2015 02:48pm
Quote (DCSS @ Jan 19 2015 12:51pm)
so why cant paladins use charge at all, just didnt want any hammerdonkas? they literally cant do anything without it besides spin gubers


Lol, dont question euro rules... Theres no point... You dont play the realm so it doesnt effect you at all.
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Jan 19 2015 03:26pm
You can add this 30 too: Allergies | 30 boner

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1. bonnerf2| DavidBowie | Level 18 Bowazon


oooh yeah. #1
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Jan 19 2015 04:03pm
we had a multitude of mld tournaments where paladins @ 49 used medi and vigor charge. it was not found to be overpowered. I think libby's only won 2 of the 20 mld tournaments. Charge can be read, and the damage dealt at this level is so higher compared to lld and hld that most builds that have issues vs charge, will really hurt or outright kill them if/when they hit. Druids were the weakest class at 49. hence up to 59, but even then they were weak. Assassins were limited really to one viable build (trappers), anything else died to any type of paladin/barb/druid, hence the move to 59 to make more builds viable.

anyway, its your boat, so you can sail it. Banning passive charge effectively removes most paladin builds as being viable though, unless you radically alter alot of matchup's. I might pop in once in a while, i think i have a character somewhere xD

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we had a multitude of mld tournaments where paladins @ 49 used medi and vigor charge. it was not found to be overpowered. I think libby's only won 2 of the 20 mld tournaments. Charge can be read, and the damage dealt at this level is so higher compared to lld and hld that most builds that have issues vs charge, will really hurt or outright kill them if/when they hit. Druids were the weakest class at 49. hence up to 59, but even then they were weak. Assassins were limited really to one viable build (trappers), anything else died to any type of paladin/barb/druid, hence the move to 59 to make more builds viable.

anyway, its your boat, so you can sail it. Banning passive charge effectively removes most paladin builds as being viable though, unless you radically alter alot of matchup's. I might pop in once in a while, i think i have a character somewhere xD


Thanks for the input ferdia, really appreciate it. Sending you a pm :)
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btw here is the last tournament i hosted. i guess i shoudl save that link in my profile: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69098088&f=143
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Welp .. :lol: hehehe
ty for fun duels m8 :love:

Will be updating ladder + adding level 9 section soon :)
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