i miss mine and tournaments when we were used to fuck shit n get banned hihi

dyl4ndou was kicked from last group

This post was edited by Squick on Jul 28 2013 02:51am

!!!

Bump for nice guide.

This post was edited by Phazz on Jul 28 2013 04:57am

awesome!

btw light sorc > esfb

i speak of eslight ofc, simply the TS + no 85 lres makes it fucking hard

Following on from some feedback ~

1. you want to aim for (at minimum!) 1K life and 250+ mana with a shadow and 350+ mana on a matri. 300+ optimal for Shadow, 400+ optimal for Matri
2. Stygians ideal vs paladins, but matri's are ideal vs fb'ers. the reason being - you cannot afford to get a low hit vs a esfb'er if he is telestomping you. Matri's on the other hand do consistly sick damage (stygians do good damage, or insane damage, not much inbetween).
3. Stack items (such as pre-lod viper eye ring - lightning) and the amulets below take up a tiny amount of space but can provide you with that edge in specific duels / situations. Also, repl from non-switch gear, are better then repl from shields, but they are pretty hard to find.
4. Top 10 Shadow Bow Thread (sorry i lost the matri bow thread I made years ago!): http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=68376302&f=103&o=0
5. And yes what above user said, ESLight sorc is a pain (we dont allow thundergods on europe). Again you want to be doing sick damage. ESLight should repeatedly telestomp you to death, otherwise they are just bad.
6. Some useful info here: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=68368759&f=143&o=0#p458117464 and here http://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=190773



This post was edited by ferdia on Jul 28 2013 06:45am

great effort.
however, i dont like that you list options that are simply not worth mentioning:
res/ias armor/helm (ed is always better), res boots (wt is always better - charms are the way to go), mana amulet (3pm is always better), rare belts/mavina (craft/soe is always better).

you mention replenish life being important but you did not list repl gloves in gear selection.

the point behind going for "vita build" is that the added % of life is larger than that of damage, if remaining stats go to dex. in that context i also miss the -req socketing for bow.

if i were to start playing amazon, i would probably have some sort of idea of what my options are and would want to know which are the best without having to calculate myself - not read through my options again.

yes -req on the bow is nice for vita build and extremely important to have if you go for a matri, since they have 87str you would lose the frw bug from eth wts which are 85 str

This post was edited by Squick on Jul 28 2013 06:30am

Harabec - Not everyone is rich enough to have gear (or charms) instead of res/ias armor. Stash size is only so big. I know you like to have mule accounts for your characters but most people don't. I didnt list res helmets, but yes, if you dont have the charms / gear, thats where you can make up needed resistances - while you are upgrading your character. I have listed from budget to itemlame items, not everyone can get 3/100 in ladder, or a 3PSM 2 sox 30 frw Circ. A 100 life 120 mana amulet is a good temp. Also while I don't use rare belts, they can still be used as temp or as stack items. Again, OW belts are not common. If you read the guide carefully you will have noted I said SOE should be worn 90% of the time.
Re: repl gloves, see above post from me, where I provided examples.
I already covered the Dex Vs Vita argument, I prefer my explanation to yours, but I acknowledge your point.
You have a bowa already and you play it. But for new players:

Standard Gear:

3/100 amu
3PSM 30FRW 2 Sox Circ x2 15ias 30ed
4Sox Dusk 100 life x4 15ias 30ed
String of Ears
400+ Ed shadow or 400+ ed 20ias Matri (with Ias 30ed Jewel)
Eth Titans
JKOD 3sox with jewels ED Dual Stat STR DEX
Raven 20DEX
Dual stat STR DEX + mana Ring
War Trav
2PSM 20Ias 9str 15 Dex Gloves

hopefully that covered off everything in your post.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jul 28 2013 06:39am

my amazons private stash is half empty. infact none of my chars requires any muling
11res 16life charms can't cost more than 5fg. those are still better than 3/20/20 charms + res armor.. same goes for 3pm 80life amu. that will still beat a 100/120 etc.


hehe

I covered your above points, to my own satisfaction, if not yours. I cant see many people wanting to use charms with less then 19~20 life on them. In terms of the light sorc comment, I was not directing this at you - I would regard you as one of the top 3 all round best MLD players over the last 7 years on europe (the other 2 being Lee and Jim). I know you dont like to telestomp alot. This tactic works for you and is presumably from EU-PVP experience (HLD). However not everyone is as good as you at middle distance dueling. Repeated telestomping with a ESLight sorc is the most suitable tactic to win vs bowazons. If you want to challenge this comment thats fine, but we will simply agree to disagree on the matter. You crush people already, adding in more telestomps would just end the duel faster, in your favour.

As we don't allow TG on bowa vs Light sorc - repeated telestomping should be the no.1 tactic. The bowa has no time to play his game. The match is dictated by the sorc player.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jul 28 2013 07:10am