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Sep 5 2008 09:54am
back on topic, any other options for bow's, once upon a time gothic's were used, long long ago. anything in the rare department that we should know about
rogue's bow upped
5soc ash
what else


and for the record. no psn in this build.
and Hellskins post for charms to use.
and bowa's are more fun then chargers.

This post was edited by ferdia on Sep 5 2008 10:07am
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Sep 5 2008 10:06am
Loving the guide.

Ive never made a bowa but knew most of this. Always wanted to make one but wasnt sure between a bowa or a charger =p
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Sep 5 2008 10:12am
very nice biggrin.gif

but no guide for dueling my druid? sad.gif
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vs telestomp druid (thats sXTitan's), use multi to kill any minions, ensure you have over 110 frw (the more the better) and are firing at 8fps ideally. anticipate the telestomp and run 1/2 screen up or down (down ideally) and shoot. run up to confuse him :-) if you dont have the damage and frw, you wont win.

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Quote (required @ Fri, Sep 5 2008, 04:50am)
Nice guide. I think you should look a bit into the poison/bow hybrid though
also, vs kickers, with kb gloves one good jab does the trick biggrin.gif
I prefer a 0 dodge bowa with lld. max block ofc and switch when they tele, if well built you can interrupt with jab, kb then 120 + frw will get you to safety.


I will keep this in mind, but this build was more about the pure bowa. I know the poison / bow hybrid can be a devastating build, but it's just a that, a different build all together, so no real need to include it in this particular guide I don't think.

Quote (Antichrist- @ Fri, Sep 5 2008, 04:57am)
crap, but bit better than most guides


ok... :x

Quote (Demonsangel @ Fri, Sep 5 2008, 05:22am)
knockback = bm


I will be sure and add something about this on the repost. I realize knockback is considered BM on some realms and I meant to mention that it's easy to take out of the build by simply replacing the nef rune in your bow with a 24 max jewel. Thanks for bringing this to my attention smile.gif

Quote (RedNight @ Fri, Sep 5 2008, 05:39am)
stfu trash


Quote (ClanBK @ Fri, Sep 5 2008, 06:17am)
You must have no idea what you're talking about.


Guys... please just PM him next time, if you are referring to my guide, please offer me advice to make it better. smile.gif

Quote (ferdia @ Fri, Sep 5 2008, 08:54am)
back on topic, any other options for bow's, once upon a time gothic's were used, long long ago. anything in the rare department that we should know about
rogue's bow upped
5soc ash
what else


and for the record. no psn in this build.
and Hellskins post for charms to use.
and bowa's are more fun then chargers.


Yeah if we can compile a nice list of what it would take for a rare bow to beat out a socketed ashwood that would be awesome. My main concern would be the IAS. You would most likely need to use death's combo with a rare bow, and perhaps twitch as well. I will look in to this a bit, and see what I come up with, if anyone else has info on this subject that would be great.

Quote (BBob @ Fri, Sep 5 2008, 09:06am)
Loving the guide.

Ive never made a bowa but knew most of this. Always wanted to make one but wasnt sure between a bowa or a charger =p


Thanks, I will try to include more specific information on the repost (maybe stuff you didn't already know) tongue.gif

Quote (sXTitan @ Fri, Sep 5 2008, 09:12am)
very nice biggrin.gif

but no guide for dueling my druid? sad.gif


Your druid is neither a common build nor one a bowzon can do much about if you are on your game for tele. I will add it and put ferdia's comments below in the guide. I will also mention that in TPK you are semi-vulnerable to being focus fired as you don't have max block. heart.gif your druid though, I just didn't include it because yours is the only one like it I have seen, and typical windy druids are very easy for a bowzon.

Quote (ferdia @ Fri, Sep 5 2008, 09:30am)
vs telestomp druid (thats sXTitan's), use multi to kill any minions, ensure you have over 110 frw (the more the better) and are firing at 8fps ideally. anticipate the telestomp and run 1/2 screen up or down (down ideally) and shoot. run up to confuse him :-) if you dont have the damage and frw, you wont win.


Will include this, and add more as mentioned above.


Thanks for all the feedback so far everyone, but lets try and keep the flame war to a minimum.
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Sep 5 2008 01:27pm
Impossible for this particular forum to NOT flame, they are simply not capable of it.
Nice guide though, best one I've seen. Brush it up with those helpful suggestions and make the font a little darker, and good to go. If I remake my zon I'm following your guide biggrin.gif
Oh, and sell me your 44 res spirit shield for 75FG ok? lol
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Was reffering not to the guide, but to the other guy.

As for the guide goes, only thing I'd change is to say that I prefer 2 shaels in bow and using death's gloves/belt for gear, and that it isn't smart to be within or near the enemy's screen if you don't have to be. If you're not a douche you can pull this off without being completely lame and just spamming.
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Quote (uptoolayte @ Fri, Sep 5 2008, 12:27pm)
Impossible for this particular forum to NOT flame, they are simply not capable of it.
Nice guide though, best one I've seen. Brush it up with those helpful suggestions and make the font a little darker, and good to go. If I remake my zon I'm following your guide biggrin.gif
Oh, and sell me your 44 res spirit shield for 75FG ok? lol


It certainly seems like they need to establish a fire department in this forum, hopefully it would keep the flames down. icon_pointl.gif Okay terrible joke I know smile.gif

I guess I will play around with the colors a bit and try to darken it up. As far as my shield goes, I can't sell that cheap, I am too broke tongue.gif

Quote (ClanBK @ Fri, Sep 5 2008, 12:37pm)
Was reffering not to the guide, but to the other guy.

As for the guide goes, only thing I'd change is to say that I prefer 2 shaels in bow and using death's gloves/belt for gear, and that it isn't smart to be within or near the enemy's screen if you don't have to be. If you're not a douche you can pull this off without being completely lame and just spamming.


Yeah, I will adjust that to say *near* their screen. I just want to emphasize that they needn't be running around like a jackass spamming GA from 2 screens away. Nobody likes that, and I don't want someone who is doing that to ever say, "well I read in Sloxx's guide that I should..." if you get what I mean, so I was exaggerating a bit smile.gif

Yeah, my stash gear noted to include a 2 shael'd bow with death's combo and use them together. I prefer that for a lot of fights and especially in TPK, where it yields more damage and you have more damage sponges around you, but for many 1v1 I fights really enjoyed having high FHR and a little more life that bloodfist and a rare belt brought me. Either way, having both options available to you is optimal, regardless of which one you count as your main set and stash set smile.gif
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Quote (Sloxx @ Fri, Sep 5 2008, 01:04pm)
Your druid is neither a common build nor one a bowzon can do much about if you are on your game for tele. I will add it and put ferdia's comments below in the guide. I will also mention that in TPK you are semi-vulnerable to being focus fired as you don't have max block.  your druid though, I just didn't include it because yours is the only one like it I have seen, and typical windy druids are very easy for a bowzon.


<3

also, if the zon has a point into LF, it could do a bit better than multi, but any zon would still need a bit of luck to consistently beat me on druid biggrin.gif

and the color of the guide font is fine unless you're using some crazy jsp template

PM paparick and he'll put it in the sticky

This post was edited by sXTitan on Sep 5 2008 02:31pm
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