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Nov 11 2024 06:15pm
Quote (Santara @ Nov 11 2024 05:48pm)
LMFAO! Felon has an RCS 2 orders of magnitude larger than the obsoleted F22. The differences are staggering.


Yes, the f22 has a better rcs. Muh stealth isnt the only thing that makes a dogfighter good, especially with the advancemens of passive radar technology. The su57 has better maneuvering/topspeed and worse overall avionics. And now that the felon is in active combat we can compare the two. Remember, the f22s claim to fame is shooting down a chinese spy balloon
(thats it)

The us is unable to produce f22s, its now considered lostech. The fact that another country is able to even come close to making a f22 is the problem. You check out the j-35? The chinese are catching up too.

Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 11 2024 06:20pm)
Whats the point of more 5e fighters when air power has been reduced to being glorified medium range missile launcher platforms and the su57 isnt doing anything the su34/35 can't. 6e fighters better be flying saucers with point defense lasers to shoot down drones and aa missiles if they want to be relevant


Check out what Americas doing with NGAD ( 6th gen fighter program) the future isnt in planes/stealth but in drones/bvr missles/datalink capability. Air dominance will still be relevant in the future
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Nov 11 2024 07:08pm
Quote (zorzin @ Nov 11 2024 06:15pm)
Yes, the f22 has a better rcs. Muh stealth isnt the only thing that makes a dogfighter good, especially with the advancemens of passive radar technology. The su57 has better maneuvering/topspeed and worse overall avionics. And now that the felon is in active combat we can compare the two. Remember, the f22s claim to fame is shooting down a chinese spy balloon
(thats it)

The us is unable to produce f22s, its now considered lostech. The fact that another country is able to even come close to making a f22 is the problem. You check out the j-35? The chinese are catching up too.


Dogfighting is a last resort, and no, the F22 is more maneuverable. Yes it's slower, but in a fight, avionics is king.

It's not that they can't, it's that they won't. Cost/benefit analysis and all that.
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Nov 11 2024 11:04pm
I think that exotic super fighters will quickly lose their sheen in a protracted conflict when costs mount and quantities of force are needed, and needed yesterday.
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Nov 12 2024 02:37am
Quote (Malopox @ 8 Nov 2024 11:14)
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Prominent Ukrainian far right figure Serhiy Sternenko has been put on the wanted list for draft dodging by the mobilisation authorities in his native Odessa.

A former Right Sector leader in Odessa, Sternenko stood accused of a murder but dodged prosecution after a loud campaign for his release. He later became the face of Prytula Foundation - a large scale operation crowdfunding Ukraine’s drone programme. It is also known to operate one of the most toxic troll networks here on this platform.

Sternenko confirmed reports in a Telegram post that a draft notice was sent to his place of registration in Odessa. He accused those behind it of trying to undermine the Ukrainian drone production and working for the Kremlin


What a true far right grifter does when accused of draft dodging and - in later reports - of faking disability (poor eyesight) to assist that? He writes to his 860K followers on TG:

“Russians have no right to live” instead of joining the front lines
https://i.imgur.com/mqLZ8DP.jpeg


Prominent far right figure Serhiy Sternenko has met with the commander-in-chief Oleksandr Syrsky after being accused by mobilisation authorities of draft-dodging and in exchange accusing Syrsky of engineering the campaign against him and - indirectly - of aiding Russia.

Another illustration of how unimportant and non-influential the far right is in Ukraine.
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Nov 12 2024 02:39am
Trump has selected Rep. Mike Waltz (R-FL), one of the most hardcore interventionists in the entire US House of Representatives. Waltz met with a delegation from Ukraine's most powerful neo-Nazi movement (Azov) in September 2022, according to which he "promised to help spread the truth about the Azov regiment, its history, military merits and the soldiers who are still in captivity."

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Nov 12 2024 03:01am
Quote (Malopox @ 12 Nov 2024 16:39)
Trump has selected Rep. Mike Waltz (R-FL), one of the most hardcore interventionists in the entire US House of Representatives. Waltz met with a delegation from Ukraine's most powerful neo-Nazi movement (Azov) in September 2022, according to which he "promised to help spread the truth about the Azov regiment, its history, military merits and the soldiers who are still in captivity."

https://i.imgur.com/SUHZU98.jpeg


Might be the second biggest mistake he is going to make for NSA Role.
He can't put a leash on John Bolton. He can't put a leash on Mike Waltz.

Let's see how many mistakes he is going to make :lol:

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Nov 12 2024 03:01am
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Nov 12 2024 06:51am
Chief of NATO Military Committee complains he can’t bomb the shit out of russkies as they have these pesky MIRV nukes on submarines and mobile ICBMs. Or as they put it professionally:
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Russia’s nuclear arsenal was the central factor distinguishing it from the Taliban in Afghanistan regarding its ability to combat NATO forces

Was this in your bingo card for 2024?

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/nato-military-chief-fight-russia-deterrent

This post was edited by Malopox on Nov 12 2024 06:57am
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Nov 12 2024 07:02am
Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 11 2024 03:20pm)
Whats the point of more 5e fighters when air power has been reduced to being glorified medium range missile launcher platforms and the su57 isnt doing anything the su34/35 can't. 6e fighters better be flying saucers with point defense lasers to shoot down drones and aa missiles if they want to be relevant


this

highly capable 5th gen fighters are the white elephants of future wars

protracted war requires replaceability, Russia has held onto its tiny precious air forces like they're cradling a baby while their artillery and drone forces are doing the vast majority of the heavy lifting. Granted Russia's industrial base is quite small compared to the US
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Nov 12 2024 01:33pm
Marco Rubio is going to ask his friends to close this thread.
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Quote (Malopox @ Nov 12 2024 03:39am)
Trump has selected Rep. Mike Waltz (R-FL), one of the most hardcore interventionists in the entire US House of Representatives. Waltz met with a delegation from Ukraine's most powerful neo-Nazi movement (Azov) in September 2022, according to which he "promised to help spread the truth about the Azov regiment, its history, military merits and the soldiers who are still in captivity."

https://i.imgur.com/SUHZU98.jpeg


2nd girl from left has a 10/10 resting bitch face. She looks to be of solid Aryan stock, assuming she's team Azov?
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