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Nov 19 2023 08:53am
Quote (Meanwhile @ 19 Nov 2023 15:23)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/masonbissada/2022/03/21/500-or-10000-deaths-russian-media-finally-seems-to-report-dire-troop-casualty-numbers-and-then-deletes-them/

10k deaths in a month seems something that can easily happen. We are at 21 months and we had terrible battles on the top of that, since then.
So 300k+ (including seriously wounded if they aren't abandoned on the battlefield, else they die) is largely possible.


So if Russia is losing 10k a month defending since late 2022, does that mean that quote:

Quote (Meanwhile @ 19 Nov 2023 14:35)
The ratio

/e i misstyped and forgot to write: the classic 1:3 ratio attacker/defender observed during ww1 as example.


Ukraine is losing 30k a month counterattacking?

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Nov 19 2023 08:58am
Quote (Malopox @ Nov 19 2023 02:53pm)
So if Russia is losing 10k a month defending since late 2022, does that mean that quote:



Ukraine is losing 30k a month counterattacking?


The counter attack is over.

The war is a stalemate again until perhaps the ground freezes over.
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Nov 19 2023 09:02am
Quote (Malopox @ 19 Nov 2023 15:53)
So if Russia is losing 10k a month defending since late 2022, does that mean that quote:
Ukraine is losing 30k a month counterattacking?


Circling around with questions is not good.
Look: it's not my fault of the russian regime is losing (wasting?!) much more soldiers than Ukrainians.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/11/14/on-one-key-eastern-battlefield-the-russians-are-losing-14-vehicles-for-every-one-the-ukrainians-lose

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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 19 Nov 2023 17:58)
The counter attack is over.

The war is a stalemate again until perhaps the ground freezes over.


It wasn't a counteroffensive. It was a feint within a feint within a feint. Ukraine is about to win. Send some aid to refill Zelensky's cocain depot.
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Quote (Norlander @ Nov 19 2023 03:05pm)
It wasn't a counteroffensive. It was a feint within a feint within a feint. Ukraine is about to win. Send some aid to refill Zelensky's cocain depot.


Feintception.

I can't imagine the shame of believing your army is the second strongest on the planet, then the poorest country in Europe halts your advance and denies all of your own stated war aims.
Then you remember that country is led by a comedian.

How DOES that feel comrade?
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Feintception.

I can't imagine the shame of believing your army is the second strongest on the planet, then the poorest country in Europe halts your advance and denies all of your own stated war aims.
Then you remember that country is led by a comedian.

How DOES that feel comrade?


You are like a football hooligan but for countries :rofl:
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 19 Nov 2023 18:10)
Feintception.

I can't imagine the shame of believing your army is the second strongest on the planet, then the poorest country in Europe halts your advance and denies all of your own stated war aims.
Then you remember that country is led by a comedian.

How DOES that feel comrade?


When a country is lead by a comedian be sure that your counteroffensive is a comedy. And you are a stunt man.
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Nov 19 2023 09:23am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 19 Nov 2023 18:21)
You are like a football hooligan but for countries :rofl:


Glory, glory Man United :)
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Nov 19 2023 09:27am
Quote (Meanwhile @ 19 Nov 2023 16:02)
Circling around with questions is not good.
Look: it's not my fault of the russian regime is losing (wasting?!) much more soldiers than Ukrainians.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/11/14/on-one-key-eastern-battlefield-the-russians-are-losing-14-vehicles-for-every-one-the-ukrainians-lose


I'm asking you very simple questions.

According to you attackers typically lose 3:1.

According to you Russians were losing 10k a month defending an extremely fortified area while having air and ar tillers superiority. We know that Ukraine wasn't able to breach the 1st line of defense.

According to your own logic that would mean that Ukranians are losing 3:1 = 30K Ukranian losses per month for how many months of the counteroffensive? Could you guide me through how do you get to 70k total losses?

This post was edited by Malopox on Nov 19 2023 09:36am
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Quote (Malopox @ 19 Nov 2023 16:27)
I'm asking you very simple questions.
According to you attackers typically lose 3:1.
According to you Russians were losing 10k a month defending an extremely fortified area and we know that Ukraine wasn't able to breach the 1st line of defence.
According to your own logic that would mean that Ukranians are losing 3:1 = 30K Ukranian losses per month for how many months of the counteroffensive? Could you guide me through how do you get to 70k total losses?


You are distording. Counteroffensive was largely slowed down and Ukrainians take care not wasting their resources.

Russia has:

- A lack of non-commissioned officers
- Alcoholics commanders who push for 80% casualties
- Special sections to kill those who retreat
- "disposable prisonners" sent into complete meat waves - Wagner fest & all -
- Under-equipped troops
- Poor training and poor management of their wounded.
- Done alot of meatwave sacrifices (with "normal" soldiers, not prisonners) in order to please SexLord Putin

So yeah it's very certain a 3:1 or more, maybe 4:1. Imho claiming it's same ratio (1:1) is complete deceit.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Nov 19 2023 09:43am
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