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#35851
Sep 29 2023 06:21am
Russian anti air shows improvement in takedown capability,

https://defence-blog.com/russia-shoots-down-its-own-su-35-fighter-jet/

On their own jet.
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Sep 29 2023 06:53am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Sep 29 2023 09:21am)
Russian anti air shows improvement in takedown capability,

https://defence-blog.com/russia-shoots-down-its-own-su-35-fighter-jet/

On their own jet.


Seems legit :rofl:
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#35853
Sep 29 2023 12:40pm
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Jail time for likes on social networks:

over the course of a year, more than 170 Ukrainians were convicted for likes on Odnoklassniki and Vkontakte, - BBC News

Most of them are unemployed or pensioners who have not previously had problems with the law. Many did not realize that their “likes” were automatically spreading the content on their page. For supporting pro-Russian posts about the war, they face 1 to 5 years in prison.

“If this were a public figure with influence on society, I might still understand [the verdict], but given that this is an ordinary, old, very sick and slightly deaf woman, I don’t know why this decision was made. I don’t understand this,” said the lawyer of one of the convicted women.

The article notes that some pensioners are given five years in prison - a term that in Ukraine can be received for theft, murder or rape.



Democracy and freedoms
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#35854
Sep 29 2023 12:58pm
Quote (Malopox @ Sep 29 2023 11:40am)
Democracy and freedoms


Par for the course for a Nazi state
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#35855
Sep 29 2023 01:02pm
Quote (Malopox @ 29 Sep 2023 20:40)
Democracy and freedoms


You means supporting genocidal regime ? Even if many case are simply disabled people, I can understand it's a direct threat and i wish they find back all IPs & locations of these fuckers.

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Sep 29 2023 01:27pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Sep 29 2023 04:02pm)
You means supporting genocidal regime ? Even if many case are simply disabled people, I can understand it's a direct threat and i wish they find back all IPs & locations of these fuckers.

https://i.imgur.com/mHQbAV0.png


Why is it a direct threat?
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#35857
Sep 29 2023 01:31pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Sep 29 2023 12:27pm)
Why is it a direct threat?


Hilarious how someone who decries the CCP/China for rampant censorship and curtailing of freedom of speech believes that liking a social media post is a "direct threat"

Do these people have zero self awareness?
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Sep 29 2023 01:45pm
Quote (El1te @ Sep 29 2023 04:31pm)
Hilarious how someone who decries the CCP/China for rampant censorship and curtailing of freedom of speech believes that liking a social media post is a "direct threat"

Do these people have zero self awareness?


I imagine they view these people as Russian saboteurs or traitors, so to them there is no hypocrisy in their view that China is bad due to its censorship while Ukraine is simply defending itself from the traitors in their midst

Not a view I agree with obviously but that is how I think they rationalize it
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#35859
Sep 29 2023 01:58pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Sep 29 2023 12:45pm)
I imagine they view these people as Russian saboteurs or traitors, so to them there is no hypocrisy in their view that China is bad due to its censorship while Ukraine is simply defending itself from the traitors in their midst

Not a view I agree with obviously but that is how I think they rationalize it


It's hilariously ironic because that's exactly what China thinks when people speak out against them, that they are foreign enemies out to subvert them.
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Sep 29 2023 02:21pm
Quote (El1te @ Sep 29 2023 04:58pm)
It's hilariously ironic because that's exactly what China thinks when people speak out against them, that they are foreign enemies out to subvert them.


Is that view completely unwarranted for China though? There is probably billions of dollars spent by foreign powers to pursue that exact end, through those exact means.

The more I read about how the US maintains its control around the world and how it stirs up civil wars wherever it can't, it seems increasingly pragmatic to me for countries like Russia and China to crackdown on freedom of speech to not allow that type of foreign subversion to continue
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