I mean russia has pretty much always been an evil empire. they genocided as many of their indigenous people as they could and then deny they ever existed. considering im an american id say we have our own issues and do unethical things too, but putin and his henchmen are looking comically evil at this point. and stupid to boot. though not as stupid as trump. that ww2 comment he made. le chefs kiss of stupid

No, no, no... Fender asked you :

"You think pootin murdered utkin because he was a nazi, or because he happened to be on a plane with prigozhin and the leader of a mercenary group that defied him publicly?"

On a side note the guy with Putin on the photos is Utkin, it was in 2016, we posted the wikipedia: he got a medal: "four Orders of Courage"...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Utkin#Wagner_Group
Btw aljazeera proof. (same photo)
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/8/28/who-was-dmitry-utkin-a-key-wagner-mercenary-who-died-alongside-prigozhin



They are the only ones who did a serfdom => nearly enslaving transition in history. On their own people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom_in_Russia

This is "special"...

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Sep 19 2023 03:45am

Special reluctant military operation.

Sounds like a gaslighting abusive partner, "you made me do this!"

Insanity.

I answered him. Please learn to read.



I’ve posted the alleged photo earlier and cast my doubts on it. I did not see any other proof in AlJazeera article there except hearsay.



What’s your point with this? Do you deny France had serfdom?

On a side note - when will you eat your shoes? Second time you are being debunked with spreading fake news.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/18/world/europe/ukraine-missile-kostiantynivka-market.html



This post was edited by Malopox on Sep 19 2023 04:14am

We posted proofs, delivered multiple sources, and yes, Russia has unique history of serfdom, nothing to compare with western Europe.
I guess you will try to change subject, or try to make a diversion, better: just a denial. It doesn't work you have been spotted.

Why are you dodging direct questions addressed to you.

1) What’s your point bringing up serfdom in Russia which has been abolished hundreds of years ago? Please elaborate.

2) Do you deny this happened in your own country? (which country is that by the way. I have doubts whether you are really from France). How is that different from Russia and why should we care in the context of a conflict between Ukraine and Russia.

3) Why are you dodging a direct question about a missile? Are you out of shoes to eat?

This post was edited by Malopox on Sep 19 2023 04:38am

1) It was related to this post: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&p=650985204 => I said :

They are the only ones who did a serfdom => nearly enslaving transition in history. On their own people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom_in_Russia
This is "special"...

2) This is a unique case in History, serfom increased and reinforced until being close to slavery, while it was disapearing in western EU. If you didn't know it... It can explain alot about Russian culture and if yourself you didnt know it... You are just doomed dude lol.

3) I'm dodging nothing, I am the first who posted about NYT article. YOU are still dodging about Putin decorating Utkin neo-nazi.
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&p=650971670
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&p=650985474

Serfdom was widespread in agricultural societies. It was not invented and by no means unique to Imperial Russia. France had it as well. Your country (which one is that?) also probably did it.

What’s your point of bringing it up in the context of Ukraine / Russia conflict?



It is true that Russia abolished it later than some of the European nations.

You are replying to an American poster whose nation had slaves (not serfs) a century (abolished 1861) after Russians abolished kholopy in 1723.




Did you? And what do you think? Will you recall your slurs against me casting doubt over official Ukrainian version based on sources like Julian Röpcke? Can I report you to the moderating team for Flaming like you did when I pointed glaring gaps in your knowledge of history of France? Apology is in order.




I literally posted his pictures and an extended explanation why I think it’s not the same guy. What else do you want?

This post was edited by Malopox on Sep 19 2023 05:00am

1/ I quoted someone else than you and the unique serfdom history has alot to do with what is Russia today and so on the whole behavior of the russian people. I already explained, delivered source.
2/ You certainly do not deserve any kind of apology.
3/ Enough material proving Putin decorated Utkin has been delivered, you are just trolling around now.

https://en.respublica.lt/signs-of-neo-nazi-ideology-amongst-russian-mercenaries

ofc pootlickers and war apologists - very much like flat-earthers - just refuse to accept any evidence that contradicts their chosen conclusion, but someone who claims that russia isn't more racist than other countries, or that we simply have no evidence that utkin was a nazi, simply doesn't live in the real world and is clearly immune to reason and argument, only pretends to be open while continually making claims in bad faith and outright ignoring / dismissing what proves them wrong.

literally not worth engaging, just another bot in pootin's troll army...