Quote (Djunior @ Mar 5 2023 01:21pm)
You're living in your own reality, lol. A coup déta (Euromaidan) installed a pro-Western puppet
to ensure that Ukraine stayed on the road to NATO /EU membership. I already posted the source.Russia encompasses 1/8 of the total inhabitable landmass, filled with natural resources just FYI. You're clueless.
BTW (Euromaidan 2014)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93eyhO8VTdgLOL
It's a bullshit talking point, always has been.
Here's a useful explainer about the uprising:
https://www.thebulwark.com/what-really-happened-in-ukraine-in-2014-and-since-then/ There's a substantive difference between a popular uprising and an unpopular coup. For instance, the American revolution was a popular uprising, while Trump's machinations after he lost to Biden were an attempted coup.
Also, even if it were true, it doesn't in any way justify what the Russians have engaged in the past year. You're helping to justify a campaign that uses genocidal language and tactics.
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 5 2023 01:29pm)
Good source, MacGregor has insider knowledge, for example sources that check obituaries all across Russia and Ukraine to present the most accurate numbers on casualties and he shits on Western MSM propaganda (which is why Meanwhile doesn't like him).
Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 5 2023 02:27pm)
Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_MacgregorYou realize that this guy said:
2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine he said:Three days after the war began, he said "The battle in eastern Ukraine is really almost over,"
"If [Ukraine] don't surrender in the next 24 hours, I suspect Russia will ultimately annihilate them."
"Russia should be allowed to seize whatever parts of Ukraine it wanted"
Later he revised his prediction:
"The first five days Russian forces I think frankly were too gentle. They've now corrected that. So, I would say another 10 days this should be completely over..."
His opinion on NATO :In a 2016 presentation to military students, Macgregor said that "old alliances like NATO may vanish", arguing that it is "time to reexamine U.S. investment in 'allies' that are doing too little to secure their own sovereign interests" and that the "Cold War ended 27 years ago"
Finally, on ukraine again, months later:In September 2022, he again predicted on Carlson's show that “this war may be over soon”[66] and later in the month "the Ukrainian army is bled white, tens of thousands of Ukrainian troops have been killed or wounded, Ukraine is really on the ropes".
=> I don't really have much of a personal opinion on this guy. But proofs are here he is dangerously wrong and a clown.
Lawl.
Djunior doesn't want to hear facts, he wants to hear people paint him a narrative that aligns with his priors. And people like McGregor do that.
The quote on NATO is particularly funny. I recall people here a few years ago posting about how NATO is obsolete, there's really no point to it's existence, and now even Sweden and Finland want to join. Institutions matter, we should try to preserve them.
This post was edited by IceMage on Mar 5 2023 02:18pm