i know english can be difficult, so let me try to help you out here: which part of "i have always been a vocal critic of american imperialism, but two wrongs don't make a right, so it's no excuse for russian war mongering" do you not understand? it's directly telling you that i don't belong to either of the two camps you described. the killing of innocent people to further a nation's political / economic / strategic interests is NEVER justifiable. doesn't matter who the victims are, or who the aggressor is.

this thread, however, is supposed to be about russia's attack on ukraine, not american war-mongering in the middle east, or anything else. i'm happy to discuss and condemn that in its own dedicated thread - but if it's only used as a whataboutism to downplay russia's killing of ukrainians, i will call that out as the hackery that it is. context matters, you know?

reading comprehension of a 6 year old and more buzzwords

you are just another big mouthed wokie cheering for others to fight, but you couldnt even protect your own wallet on the subway

go and fight pooootin out there buddy, ukraine needs good men right?

i was merely wrong about not expecting the full invasion, i talked pretty early about donbass conflict, the regime change tearing the country apart among other things

meanwhile you took 4 jabs, wore 2 masks and thought its gonna work, nobody needs advice from you

and you will be wrong here as well with your war hysteria just like your grandpa goebbels



these people really exist, the german npc karens

Janet Yellen went to Kiev
Unfortunately, she went with a $1 billion check
Even more unfortunately, she came back

unfortunately for you, your posts still exist, so everyone can read your fails, kremlin bot. no need to pretend you weren't THAT wrong, when your posts prove the opposite, when they show how you uncritically accepted every single stupid kremlin narrative along the way, from 'they would never attack, it's all just western disinformation' to 'they are trying to de-nazify ukraine' (with nazi mercenaries btw) to 'they are just liberating their own people'... there wasn't an excuse dumb or flimsy enough for you not to make. you went all-in on trying to downplay / justify pootin's murdering of women and children, his destruction of a whole country in order to add some territories to his rotten empire.

but hey, maybe telling me to fight in ukraine (?!), vaccine conspiracies (?!), and hilariously ironic projections about my grandfather (?!) will somehow distract from the fact that you're just another kremlin NPC, trying to bothsides the murder of innocent civilians. pathetic really...

you can't re-write history, ampootin. you can try, but everyone here sees you for what you truly are, kremlin bot.

if anyone can find the video re: On 24.02.2014, Gideon Rose was on the Colbert Report and bragged about the US-backed coup in Ukraine - using the analogy of stealing Russia's girlfriend while Russia was distracted by the Olympics. Does anyone have the video? It appears to have disappeared from the internet...

please post or send it to me privately for viewing, with thanks

https://vimeo.com/687482909

Gideon rose video

anywhere pfree ?XD

/edit nevermind found it. thanks.

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 28 2023 03:42am

Odd, it should be free, I don't even have an account.

Here is another though

https://twitter.com/ComicDaveSmith/status/1504580980929175553

Dishonest



Like the Russians haven't officially complained about ongoing NATO expansion for decades

LOL dishonest trash poster




In the case of Ukrainian NATO membership obviously you mindless drone.

FACTS https://www.nato.int/docu/update/2008/04-april/e0403h.html



BTW







We're talking about negotiations on the highest level. To justify this behavior is insane and you ARE indeed justifying it (we just fooled them, lol, is basically what you say).

Of course there's no way the West can get away with this, the other side knows we're not trustworthy which is the worst starting position for future negotiations. Well done, lol




You are clueless

Haha

Basically one Nuclear Super power trying to weaken another Nuclear Super power because her political system and unsystematic corruption screwed them up badly and they are exposed
and they both lie to the world, allies and citizens.

Five kind of lies they tell the world and citizens but the world and the " west " prefers the one told by the United States


1. Inter-state lies occur if the leader of one country lies to a leader of another country or, more generally, any foreign audience, to induce a desired reaction.

2. Fear-mongering occurs if a leader lies to his or her own domestic public.

3.Strategic cover-ups are lies to prevent controversial policies and deals from being made known publicly.

4.Nationalist myths are stories about a country's past that portray that country in a positive light and its adversaries in a negative light.

5.Liberal lies are given to clear up the negative reputation of institutions, individuals, or actions.

And most people eat into it.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Feb 28 2023 04:11am