Hahhahahaha yea let’s listen to this guy

In 1991 NATO expansion was not realistically up for debate anytime soon

Oh wait



This post was edited by Djunior on Feb 22 2023 08:11am

Why would Poland and the Baltics want to join a defensive alliance? Do you want to parse that out for us?

Yeah appeasing Russia would have been a great plan. Just like it was in the 1930's. That didn't play out badly at all did it?

You have to be a certain kind of idiot to think appeasement is a good idea.

a comparison that wouldn't really work unless it was Britain invading Poland in the first place
The historians won't write about the pre-WW3 borders being threatened by Russian expansionism

I honestly do not think that the US will allow China to mediate a peace deal, therefore (and I could be wrong) there will be no peace deal. The US will mirror Ukrainian demands - all of Ukraine (including crimea), Russia, out, reparations and the removal of Putin. Russia will not say yes to this. China mediating a peace deal would be worse for the US than Russia winning the war, as it would be recognition from the Greatest superpower on the planet that it erred and that it could not fix the war, and that there was another Super Power capable. To my mind this will only make the US double down and extend the war longer.

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 22 2023 09:16am

Logically and grammatically this post is extremely hard to follow.
Its a perfect legitimate association. Appeasement, does not work. Period.



China doesn't have the leverage to negotiate a peace deal imo.

It sounds great and is great PR for China to appear as though it has the ability to broker peace. Realistically it's not feasible.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Feb 22 2023 09:11am

May I have permission to troll please.



Yes, China can not tell or ask the US or Ukraine what to do, and neither will do anything no matter how nicely China asks, so its just a pipe-dream. History will show however that at least China tried.

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 22 2023 09:13am

You have never asked permission before.

I was going to quote you but use a different word than appeasement. perhaps not a good idea

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 22 2023 09:14am